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Good evening all !
Well, I have found a few more photographs of Whaley schoolchildren (I knew they were somewhere in the house but it's taken me a while to track them down !)
One, as you can see, is of Group 6, Fernilee and Taxal C.E.school on 12 April 1910. "Willie Brooks" is the name written on the back of the photograph.
Apologies for the condition of the second school photograph, it is quite faded and torn. I don't know when or where it was taken, other than it would have been taken in Whaley. (This could probably do with**'s magic wand waving over it !)
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Thanks for posting it is a fantastic photograph!!!!!
Here is a newspaper report from the time on a different Whaley Bridge school teacher it appeared in The Reporter october 1914. curtaintwitcher attached the following image(s):
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Found the text difficult to read on my screen curtaintwitcher so enlarged it a bit. Edited by user 18 April 2010 17:52:34(UTC)
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Hi Gnatalee,
From my own photo album I found this:
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Hellow R.S-S
How come your photo is much clearer than mine ! Did you know the photographer personally? There was I, trying to enhance our trip back to yesteryear and you come up with a photo with such quality that it could have been taken yesterday - is wasn't, was it? Did you get little children to dress up and pretend to be pupils in 1910?
No, I didn't think so !!
Well, the fact that "Willie Brooks" was written on the back of my photograph, I believe, was a bit of a red-herring, because I don't think "Willie Brooks" was old enough to go to school at all in 1910 !!!
I suspect that either my grandmother or her sister are in the photograph, and I have a picture of them both together, but it is difficult to sort out "who-is-who".
Nevertheless, it is a fantastic photograph - do you know anyone who is on it?
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There’s a photo of Whaley School taken in the early 1920s on www.picturethepast.org.uk (Photo No. DCHQ002259).
When I first came across it and showed it to my mother in law, she immediately recognised her sister Nellie Kirk who was born in 1916. She had never seen the photo because families couldn’t afford to buy them in those days. Unfortunately, Nellie had died the year before I came across the picture so she never did get to see it and I’m sure she would have been able to name everyone on it. I managed to get a few names to the faces and sent them into picturethepast who added the names on the site.
The photo shows Herbert Thorpe, Mary Turner, Eddy Trickett, Lily Williams, Joey Fowler, Harry Cookson. Jenny Barnes, Irene Pyott, Nellie Kirk, Alan Waterhouse, Phylis Dawson, Flori Moss and Ethel Hill.
Not sure where we stand with copyright, but if it’s possible to get a good copy of the photo for the Forum that would be great – as the Forum is not selling the photos, then I guess it wouldn’t be infringing copyright?
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Thanks** - I knew I could rely on you.
Just to make it easier for others on the Forum, here's more detail on the kids:
Pictured (left to right) are (back row) not known, Herbert Thorpe, Mary Turner, Eddy Trickett, Lily Williams, Joey Fowler, not known and Harry Cookson. (Middle row) Jenny Barnes, not known, not known, not known, not known, Irene Pyott, not known, Nellie Kirk and not known. (Front row) Alan Waterhouse, Phylis Dawson, not known, Flori Moss, not known and Ethel Hill. Sat on the ground - not known.
Can anyone name any of the not known?
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Copyright law is something I have run into on a couple of occasions regarding old photographs.
I may be wrong but I understand that on Photographs the copyright runs out 70 years after the photograph was taken.
I have dealt with museums several times and found them over protective of there collections.
I know for a fact one in particular has many photographs of an individual I enquired about.
They sent me a photograph scanned from a book for sale in the museum.They do this knowing there is no copyright protecting there own interests.
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Hi Curtaintwitcher
That's interesting, what you say about museums being happy to scan photos from books. I know there are strict rules about photocopying and copyright - my librarian is always going on about it (I work in a college library). I will make enquiries tomorrow to ask what she thinks. It is something that has concerned me but, as you say, 70 years for photos sounds realistic and in the case of the 1910 photo - if the photographer is still alive I will happily give him the credit !!
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Well let's say the museums are happy to share photographs that are all ready published.But keep any unpublished photographs under lock and key.
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Hi Gnatalee,
The reason R.S-S' photo was so much clearer was not that he knew the photographer, he was the photographer. Perhaps you may have seen his name on a building in an earlier photo of the blacksmith's? I must say though, he wears well for his age. Why, only this evening I saw him chasing this young thing around his garden. Mind you, I'm not sure if he would have known what to do had he caught her!
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July 12, 1954
News in Brief:
EDUCATION COMPLAINT FROM OUR CORRESPONDENT DERBY, JULY 11.
The parents of Whaley Bridge, Derbyshire, with a population of about 6,000, are to send a deputation to the Minister of Education to demand secondary education for their children. They have already held meetings to protest that children who fail to pass entrance examinations to grammar schools have to spend an extra four years in overcrowded schools which they should leave at the age of 11.
Mr. C. Hough, Clerk to Whaley Bridge Urban District Council, which is supporting the parents, said to-day: "Our district has had a raw deal."
Good old Colin. Well said Lad.
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