It seemed to me that me and other forum thugs were on the verge of disrupting the thread about the possible demolishing of Bridge 42 with assorted historical ramblings, so I thought I'd best begin a new thread here in the Local History forum.

I hope nobody minds.

To put things in perspective, here are a few dates:

1. Cromford & High Peak Railway was opened through to Whaley Bridge in July 1831

2. Stockport, Disley & Whaley Bridge Railway begins operating regular trains as far as Whaley Bridge in June 1857

3. Connection between the C&HPR and the SD&WBR opened in August 1857, but seemed to be horse-drawn due to the bridge over the Goyt not being properly completed. Normal loco-worked traffic commenced in November 1857

4. The railway from Whaley Bridge to Buxton began operating in June 1863. Legend says that delays were incurred due to the activities of Dickie o' Tunstead. (I'm sure there'll be a thread along sooner or later about him)

** Another source gives the date as June 1864 ** - confirmation would be appreciated!

5. The Cromford & High Peak line from Shallcross to Ladmanlow (near Harpur Hill) was abandoned in June 1892.

6. The line across Old Road and down the incline to the wharf at Whaley Bridge was closed in June 1952.

7. Shallcross Yard to Whaley Bridge (across bridge 42) was closed in January 1965.

Another thing for clarification (for me) is the spelling of Shallcross. I wouldn't be asking for this except for walking past a manhole cover cast at the Shawlcross Foundry every day!

Finally, what follows is some maps joined together (badly, by me) showing the railway layout through Whaley Bridge around 1915.

buggyite attached the following image(s):

Hi Paul,

Welcome to our strange little world

The map doesn't go quite as far as Shallcross Yard, its off the bottom of the map, where its labelled "To Shallcross"

The station is to the left of the Jodrell Arms Hotel on the map - Look for Bridge Street, and its on the other side of Market St from there.

This is on the second segment down, with Market St running vertically the way the map is oriented.

I've attached a photo of Shallcross Yard taken off Chapel Road, looking south towards Fernilee from just above the shop called "Seymour Silks". Us old codgers still call it the Gas Showrooms. So you can orient yourself, I've marked roughly where Elnor Lane is, and Shallcross Mill Lane is.

I had a look to see if I could use Google Streetview to show you how it looks now from the photographer's position, but its pointless, as the trees obscure everything.

This is the view looking the opposite way, off Shallcross Mill lane back towards Chapel Road across where the goods yard was.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=shallcross+farm,+whaley+bridge&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=8.883879,26.630859&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Shallcross+Hall+Farm,+Shallcross+Rd,+Whaley+Bridge,+High+Peak,+Derbyshire+SK23+7EY,+United+Kingdom&ll=53.321851,-1.983182&spn=0.002217,0.006502&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=53.321151,-1.982723&panoid=EAUj8Q5TsVZzt9piHn2gww&cbp=12,7.52,,0,14.95

And now the photo referred to...

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buggyite attached the following image(s):

Obviously most people know this but some readers may not:-

Roughly, where the nearest railway truck is on Buggyite's photo is a round stone plaque and an original section of the old railway line.

You can still see remnants of the C&HPR at Ladmanlow. As you turn onto the Macc road up Burbage the old bridge supports are still visible. Just further up you an see other parts of the railway. All very interesting stuff and I am sure we shall be enlightened further in the coming weeks. As long as there are nopictures of members of the groovy gang pasted onto anything!

Brilliant 11/10

Since my last post I have had a really good sleep and now realise that R.S-S probably meant  "who ran the corner shop

before Alice Wildgoose" as that is quite recent (ie in R.S-S's lifetime)? If you want me to go further back to the time Alice

bought it as a going concern as a haberdashery shop or before that when Sammy and his wife owned it and ran a great little

 toffee shop. Sammy was very small and you could hear him over the counter but you couldn't see him. Before that, and I am

going right back now, Frank Lomas-Fletcher (Goerge knew him  from the Co-op garage) used to sell oatcakes from there when

he was nowt but a kid. The oatcakes were made nearby on Macc. Road by Mrs Heath in her cellar. The oatcakes were a lot

bigger than the ones you get today and he sold them for 1d each or 7 for a tanner.

Now, as for the so called garage next to the White Horse, R.S-S may be trying to catch me out on this. I cannot remember it

being a working garage but only a garage for storing the cars etc. for the pub landlords. I can remember though it being a

greengrocers and fruit shop. Wilf Lowe and Ernie Fox opened it in late 1929 or early 1930. I cannot remember how long they

traded for but the war would certainly have stopped them trading and they may have been called up also.  

PS I think the handbrake didn't work.

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Hi

Have we any short descriptions for the recent photos and maybe dates? On this thread and other ones, such as the thread with the incline on. Then they can go on the website.

I see, on the photo above, that there is St. Georges flag on the outside of White Horse pub, between the words Celebrated and Ales. Following tradition I presume there must have been a World Cup being played and that is was being shown in the pub! Wonder how we went on?