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Fedup  
#21 Posted : 21 August 2014 18:51:51(UTC)
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I hope you weren't rude to them Janep!!
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#22 Posted : 21 August 2014 19:17:11(UTC)
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Always going to be worse at holiday time with regards litter etc but worrying to hear that they were drinking so early. Something really needs to be done before the situation gets worse. I hope the police pop round over the weekend and witness first hand what is going on but I know how stretched their resources are............
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#23 Posted : 23 August 2014 15:02:06(UTC)
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This is the problem of course. Can't really have a go at them, because they just don't have the man power, or the backing of law, to cover all the problems that occur in the area.
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#24 Posted : 27 August 2014 11:03:53(UTC)
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shock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!horror!!!!!!!!!!!!!!kids gathering in whaley park and leaving litter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!whatever next?????????????bring back the birch and national service......................thatll stop em
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#25 Posted : 28 August 2014 19:28:57(UTC)
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Birch and national service.....what a good idea! I presume you are one of them then?
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#26 Posted : 29 August 2014 12:22:19(UTC)
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While there are clearly a small number of teens causing criminal damage and behaving anti-socially, a matter that should be addressed, my experience of young people in Whaley and the surrounding areas is generally positive. Recent studies seem to demonstrate that, as a whole, the current generation of young people is better behaved than my generation at the same age.

http://www.economist.com/news/britain/21565238-why-young-britons-have-turned-responsible-continent-generation

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#27 Posted : 29 August 2014 17:27:09(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Fedup Go to Quoted Post
national service.....what a good idea! I presume you are one of them then?


That's right.  Get 'em in the Army.  Put a stop to all that marching and fighting.
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#28 Posted : 13 October 2014 17:04:02(UTC)
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Nice to see the zip wire fixed when I took the kids down yesterday - my 3 year old was very happy.
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#29 Posted : 19 October 2014 13:37:42(UTC)
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Great news the zip wire is running again as this will give pleasure to many children. The next task should be to prevent dogs from fouling in the woodchip around the play equipment. My suggestion would be to ban all dogs from the childrens play area between the Reservoir Road entrance and the bridge over Toddbrook.
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#30 Posted : 20 October 2014 17:24:19(UTC)
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...and ban them from the football ground too!!! I was there a couple of weeks ago when 10 piles of dog **** had to be cleared from the pitch before a game started!!! I've witnessed people DRIVE to the ground, and then get out of the car and let their dogs run around the ground. We are in the middle of the countryside; there's no reason for dog walkers to let their animals foul anywhere in the park area....even if they "clear it up" (you can't pick it all up with the plastic doggie bags)
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#31 Posted : 22 October 2014 09:16:12(UTC)
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When I was in the park the other day there was a guy who had a black staffordshire bull terrier which he let of its lead in the kids playground while he was talking on his mobile phone he couldnt care that his dog was running around kids I agree dogs off leads should be banned from the park and football ground before something serious happens
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#32 Posted : 22 October 2014 12:00:14(UTC)
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Irresponsible dog owners are the minority but give all dog owners a bad name. Some of us ALWAYS pick up after our dogs, wouldn't dream of letting them off the lead in a designated playground and certainly would not exercise them on a football pitch. That said, the park is a public recreation area and all should be allowed access. When I walk there my dog is on a lead but I would like to retain the right to be there.
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#33 Posted : 26 October 2014 20:00:34(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jonny Summers Go to Quoted Post
...and ban them from the football ground too!!! I was there a couple of weeks ago when 10 piles of dog **** had to be cleared from the pitch before a game started!!! I've witnessed people DRIVE to the ground, and then get out of the car and let their dogs run around the ground. We are in the middle of the countryside; there's no reason for dog walkers to let their animals foul anywhere in the park area....even if they "clear it up" (you can't pick it all up with the plastic doggie bags)


I was talking to Paul Evans the Park Keeper about this the week after it happened.  He said he couldn't understand it, as there was some training going on on the pitch on Friday evening, when there was no mess at all, and then on Saturday morning there was loads of "dog" poo all over the pitch.  I can think of three reasons:  firstly, maybe somebody had a dog with a tummy problem and walked it down to the football pitch 10 times so it could relieve itself; secondly, maybe 10 people got together with their dogs and went down to the football pitch so the dogs could deliberately foul on it, or maybe....just maybe....the so called "dog" poo is in fact FOX poo.  Which of the three possibilities sounds more likely to you?  I know it is fox poo, as my dogs, and many others, are really enjoying rolling in it both near the football pitch and down in the park.  On a mild, damp day, you can smell it as you walk past the football pitch.  And why is there so much fox activity around those areas at the moment?.........well, I wonder if it could be something to do with all the fast food trays, bags and remains that are constantly being spread over the area.  Why would a fox even consider going hunting for food when it is thrown all over the ground for him - curry, chips, crisps, burgers etc., etc.  Oh and by the way, fox poo contains more worms and nasties than any pet dog.  Perhaps Jonny Summers you would consider putting a notice up, at fox eye level of course, and if possible in fox friendly language, asking foxes to foul elsewhere?  Or perhaps it would be more helpful to try and get these litter louts to pick up their rubbish and put it in the plentiful  bins provided for that purpose.  And perhaps you could stop throwing unfounded accusations at dog owners.

As for Athena - why the horrified face at the mere sight of a staffordshire bull  terrier?  This breed was commonly known as the "Nanny Dog", because of the their friendly, affectionate nature and their gentleness with children.  Just because some idiot people use them as "killer" dogs doesn't mean they are a dangerous breed.  Would you have felt better if it had been a poodle running about?  And as for keeping dogs on leads in the park areas....why?  How about banning cycles, in case they run a child over?  Oh and don't forget to ban all men walking in the park on their own, in case they have evil intent.....in fact, let's stop everybody going in the Park before "something serious happens".

Nice to see that someone has cleared up the contents of a Tampax packet that one of our delightful kids ( you know, the ones who have nowhere to go, nothing to do) decided to throw round the bench near the Reservoir Road entrance to the Park.  That must have really enhanced the pleasure of any visitors coming in that way.  And before you ask, I will pick up mess from other peoples' dogs, bottles and cartons, but I draw the line at Tampax!  Tell you what......lets ban kids from the Park as well.  Then there will be absolutely no mess at all.  


There, sorted! 
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#34 Posted : 27 October 2014 10:40:34(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Fedup Go to Quoted Post

why the horrified face at the mere sight of a staffordshire bull  terrier?  This breed was commonly known as the "Nanny Dog", because of the their friendly, affectionate nature and their gentleness with children. 


This is what can happen when the affectionate and gentle NANNY DOG mixes with children


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/1309601/Girl-in-intensive-care-following-attack-by-a-Staffordshire-bull-terrier.html

http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/DOG-ATTACK-Staffordshire-bull-terrier-attacks/story-23438113-detail/story.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/dog-attack-dad-tells-how-3449276

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/100-dog-attacks-every-week-2345738


As long as there are people in authority who believe the garbage spouted by the likes of Fedup these attacks will continue  how long will it be before theres a child from Whaley pictured in the Buxton Advertiser with half her throat missing when will people wake up and accept strange dogs and children dont mix #keepdogsonleads
 

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#35 Posted : 27 October 2014 20:47:48(UTC)
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Well, well. The Sun and the Mirror. How can I argue against these illustrious, wise and unbiased newspapers! Of course there are dog attacks, but if I had nothing better to do I could go through the papers and find dog attacks by every breed of dog under the sun. It's the deed, not the breed. And I can guarantee that the dogs that attack are those that are not socialised or exercised, and, more often than not, are abused and ill treated. Staffordshire bull terriers are the same as any other dog. No better, no worse. Dogs have been running free on the Park for as long as the Park has existed, and I have yet to see anyone with "half her throat missing". Mad hysteria, whipped up by headline grabbing, low level media who know that the more alarmist they make their stories, the more the most gullible of the public will soak it all up. Yes, children do get hurt, but they get hurt by cars, trains, buses, paedophiles and the insane, not just dogs. What are you going to do - ban everything and everybody? Life will always have an element of risk, but if you constantly walk around expecting bad things to happen, you would go mad. Certainly, if you see a dog in the Park behaving in a vicious or aggressive manner, then report it, but do not tar all dogs with the same brush. The vast majority of people ensure that their dogs are not aggressive towards children or adults, and if they have any doubts they do keep them on leads. Why would they not? Please credit dog owners (and I am talking about the vast majority who actually do care about thier dogs) with some sense.

And I will repeat myself - Staffordshire Bull Terriers, as a breed, are a loyal, affectionate and loving dog and make a brilliant pet. It is a mixture of a small minority of idiot owners, mainly youths in uirban areas, and a media spouting hysterical rhetoric that has given the breed such a bad name.

I have just this minute heard on the radio that in this country every 10 days a child dies at the hands of a carer.

I think dogs have a long way to go to beat that record.
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#36 Posted : 28 October 2014 11:46:45(UTC)
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Dogs should bot be allowed in any open areas with children.

Dogs become unpredictable and excited with children, that is a fact. and it is worse if they are not regularly assimilated or have children in their local pack.

you as the alpha of the pack have no control over a dogs reaction to any situation.

Its a sad British obsession with dogs, and owners think they know everything about them. They are animals not humans and owners think they have a god given right to anything they want for their dog.

Who are more important Dogs or children, parents are sick of the ...oh its not my dog ...its the irresponsible owners who leave poo everywhere etc...

I say all this...and I love dogs...grown up with them lived with them...etc ....but know damd well...that a great family dog....does NOT mean its fine with all Children they are pack animals and will look after their own regardless and if threatened will still turn on their own.

the media moral panic you laugh at it the tip of the iceberg, and you will find its only in this country that humans jump to the defense of animals over their own species..

Read a book on Dog psychology...


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. And I can guarantee that the dogs that attack are those that are not socialised or exercised, and, more often than not, are abused and ill treated. Staffordshire bull terriers are the same as any other dog. No better, no worse. Dogs have been running free on the Park for as long as the Park has existed, and I have yet to see anyone with "half her throat missing". Mad hysteria, whipped up by headline grabbing, low level media who know that the more alarmist they make their stories, the more the most gullible of the public will soak it all up. Yes, children do get hurt, but they get hurt by cars, trains, buses, paedophiles and the insane, not just dogs. What are you going to do - ban everything and everybody? Life will always have an element of risk, but if you constantly walk around expecting bad things to happen, you would go mad. Certainly, if you see a dog in the Park behaving in a vicious or aggressive manner, then report it, but do not tar all dogs with the same brush. The vast majority of people ensure that their dogs are not aggressive towards children or adults, and if they have any doubts they do keep them on leads. Why would they not? Please credit dog owners (and I am talking about the vast majority who actually do care about thier dogs) with some sense.

And I will repeat myself - Staffordshire Bull Terriers, as a breed, are a loyal, affectionate and loving dog and make a brilliant pet. It is a mixture of a small minority of idiot owners, mainly youths in uirban areas, and a media spouting hysterical rhetoric that has given the breed such a bad name.

I have just this minute heard on the radio that in this country every 10 days a child dies at the hands of a carer.

I think dogs have a long way to go to beat that record.


It is just ranting of a defensive dog owner.....

Are you mad??...cancer, pedophiles car crashes etc?....whats next....more people perished in wars than have been bitten by nasty dogs owned by idiots?.


come on get real...
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Dogs are totally unpredictable. I have been bitten three times in the last few years, my wife four times. And on each occasion that was the forst tome the dog had ever attacked anyone. If a dog can go over ten years before deciding to attack someone how can any dog be trusted, whatever its history? And to say that because more people die in wars than are bitten by dogs we should ignore the problem of dog attacks is the most ludicrous piece of special pleading I have ever heard. Around 200,000 people are injured by dogs every year and less than 400 by gunshot.

Remember that a dog is simply a wolf with the fear of man bred out of it
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Well put Mr Scope!, altho it was me who made up the War comment, in line with the previous ludicrous post re  ' Life will always have an element of risk, but if you constantly walk around expecting bad things to happen, you would go mad.'

You try telling a 2 year old boy that after an excited dog loose in the park runs up and knocks him flat on his back!....Thus rendering him scared of dogs now..

Its a parents duty to protect a child from this 'risk'.....but no!...' My Dogs Friendly...its never bitten anyone....hes just excited....How dare you argue with me I know my dog you dont'....I have heard it all.!!!!


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Originally Posted by: Fedup Go to Quoted Post

And as for keeping dogs on leads in the park areas....why? 

So they can't worry or attack young children or foul in the woodchip when their owner turns a blind eye. I'd have thought this would be blatantly obvious to anyone other than a bigoted irresponsible dog owner.

 


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