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R. Stephenson-Smythe  
#81 Posted : 30 September 2010 16:41:51(UTC)
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Hi Buggyite,
 
I think I’ve got a few photos of Kinder Reservoir knocking about. As they are nowt to do with Whaley I don’t think they will be of any value on here so I’ll copy them for you together with the lorry you want.
 
On another railway matter what did you think of my tale of Charlie Wilson, The Great Train Robber, openly drinking around these parts whilst on the run from gaol?
I do not think you are old enough to have had a drink with him and I certainly didn’t but the landlord was quite a character and it would be of little surprise to me if it were indeed true.
 
I wonder what HE makes of these matters.
 
In fact I shall repost this on the pubs site to see if he responds.
 
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#82 Posted : 30 September 2010 16:59:44(UTC)
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I had never heard the tales of a great train robber supping locally while on the run.

I wasn't old enough to drink in pubs (legally) at the time, as you correctly surmise, but have mentally sorted a few pubs out that I can exclude, because the landlord would never get up to such shenanigans, but can't really think of any where the landlord was enough of a character.

I can imagine one or two New Mills pubs where he'd have been made welcome in those days, though.

Any more clues??

 

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#83 Posted : 30 September 2010 17:02:56(UTC)
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You are definitely going in the wrong direction by going to New Mills.
 
But I’ll give it a couple of days and see if anyone did indeed have a drink with Charlie.
 
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#84 Posted : 30 September 2010 17:07:36(UTC)
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I can imagine one or two New Mills pubs where he'd have been made welcome in those days, though.

 

I would keep looking behind you, if I were you.

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#85 Posted : 30 September 2010 17:19:39(UTC)
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Wikipedia

The first gang member to be caught was Roger Cordrey and his friend, William Boal, who had helped him to conceal his share of the stolen money. They were lying low in a rented furnished flat above a florist shop in Wimborne Road, Moordown, Bournemouth. Bournemouth CID were tipped off by police widow Ethel Clark, when Boal and Cordey paid rent for a garage, three months up-front, all in used 10 shilling notes

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#86 Posted : 30 September 2010 18:09:11(UTC)
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Here's Page 2 then.

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#87 Posted : 30 September 2010 19:02:57(UTC)
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A lot of rum things went on in those days at the Rose and Crown at Tunstead Milton. Was that it?

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#88 Posted : 30 September 2010 19:15:54(UTC)
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Typical and expected.
 
No, of course it wasn’t The Rose and Crown.
 
But you are on the right road.
 
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#89 Posted : 30 September 2010 19:56:04(UTC)
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Here's page 2. Not very clear.

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Umtali’s humble attempt to restore this one is on his website, Most of it is readable.

Also Page 2

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#91 Posted : 01 October 2010 14:00:09(UTC)
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Cromford High Peak Timetable & Rules

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I think I have found some of the lost railway lines, so have put them on my website.

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#94 Posted : 03 October 2010 21:44:24(UTC)
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Cromford High Peak page 4 & 5

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#96 Posted : 03 October 2010 21:53:05(UTC)
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Hi

Shallcross, do you know when I come on here? I watch tele and as soon as I come on you post stuff that needs displaying, uncanny

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#98 Posted : 04 October 2010 12:45:19(UTC)
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Not too far from Furness Vale was Gowhole sidings, a fairly extensive marshalling yard on the Midland line between New Mills and Chinley. Here's a couple of photos from around 1967, the first one showing a Black 5 running on to the turntable in the Up yard, and the second one is a steam breakdown crane also in the up yard. Willow trees have totally taken over this area now.

 

 

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#99 Posted : 04 October 2010 16:36:17(UTC)
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Good afternoon, Buggyite,
 
I think you mentioned sometime over the weekend that you were from Hayfield and I have some photos of that grand little village although they are of no use on this (Whaley Bridge) forum. So I’ll copy them and send them to you anyway.
 
However, as you have started a thread about railways I suppose this can be added.
 
It’s a steam engine at Hayfield and I can only assume it is being used in the construction of the Kinder Dam.
There are certainly plenty of pipes knocking about and the shuttering, visible behind the engine, is very similar to the photos of Fernilee Dam but I can not understand why it appears so small.
 
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Oh and by the way I have a photo of a Hayfield pub and it looks to me as some of the not so distant relatives of our comical chairman of the Planning Committee are posing on it.
 
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#100 Posted : 04 October 2010 16:54:05(UTC)
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Aye, thats a Hudswell Clark loco on the Kinder Valley Railway. It  isn't shuttering behind the loco, but a long wooden chute that I think came down from Stockport Corporation's quarry higher up the valley side. Presumably stone for infill would come down this into waiting wagons. You can also see the chute in your other photo of the Kinder Valley Mail.

The problem is that the trackwork in the photograph doesn't match any track on the maps I have at the base of the dam.  I need to go and spend a few hours looking through my Dad's very comprehensive photo albums of the Kinder dam construction.

The loco was new in 1909 to Stockport Corporation for the Kinder project,  for a price of £1175, and had a series of owners upon completion of the dam, and was probably scrapped around 1949/50

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