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I've just been looking at the Photo Album on the Whaley Bridge Local History Site. This is now an excellent site and the contributors and Well Known Norm should be congratulated on the fine work they have done.
Whilst looking in the Pubs section I was surprised to see there were photo's of only five of our local hostelries. The pubs pictured are The White Hart, Board Inn, Shady Oak, Royal Oak/ Chimes and the Bulls Head at Bugsworth.
I am sure there must be historical photo's of the other pubs in Whaley and was hoping someone would be willing to share them with us. I would be particularly interested in the Horwich End pubs i.e The White Horse, New Inn/Jolly Roger and I'd be very impressed if someone had a picture of the Lamb and Salmon or The Sycamore.
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Hello HE,
I’ve been looking for some old pub photos for you and I have found a few that I shall put on here for you a bit later.
In the meantime I have found what I think is quite an unusual photo of our beloved Horwich End.
So I’ll let you have a look at this one first; even Jon might find it strange.
The camera is taking the shot from the White Horse side of Cloud Wine which is the first property you can see. Then there is Willow Terrace before Frydays arrived, then there is the gap between the properties for access round the back.
Next we have the cottages with the old street lamp in front, then the taller house, then the three cottages now painted white. The next thing appears to be the bridge over the river.
But where is the room for Dunbar Packaging or Potter’s Garage as it used to be?
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Excellent photo, R S-S. Thank you.
Do you have a date for it?
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Ed, G.A.B. invented the telephone in 1876 so how long did it take to get a telephone exchange (on Canal St.) in Whaley Bridge.The first exchange in England was built in London, of course, in 1902. The wires are not for a trunk route because they don't go any further than the pole in the foreground so there must have been a subscriber very close to the pole. The 2 insulators on the top of the pole would have been for the 2 wires that went from the exchange to the subscriber. Looking at the horse I would say it was about 1908/9 Edited by user 02 September 2010 15:03:55(UTC)
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I'm amazed you can date a photo by looking at a horse - and you can't even see its teeth!
Did horses not generally get a second pair of legs until 1910, then?  |
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Hello again HE,
Well things are developing quite nicely on this thread; so much so that I am neglecting the explosions in the Goyt Valley.
Anyway here is a photo of The New Inn that is very common.
Looking at the photo it is possible to see 3 watering holes and another one is just off camera.
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Good afternoon R. S-S
I knew I could rely on you.
Your first photograph is very interesting. A horse with two legs and a building that isn't there!
You have puzzled me with the second photo. You say there are three watering holes on the photo and one just off camera. Obviously the New Inn is very clear and the front door to the Lamb and Salmon is also recognisable. Would I be correct in saying the other watering holes you are referring to are the Seven Stars which was next to the New Inn and was there some sort of club on the Lamb & Salmon side of Old Road?
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This is a printed card so won't scan as well as a photo
Samuel Bridge outside the Soldier Dick posted September 28th 1911
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I've just reduced it to fit, and changed it to grayscale below...
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Just one more I wouldn't want to over face you
Horwich End White Horse, Worzencrofts sweet shop on left
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HE,
Now I am starting to have worries about the horse. I am fairly sure it is not a pantomime horse as they are generally white with large black patches and wear carpet slippers.
But as you and Buggyite have pointed out it really does seem to have only one set.
Perhaps if it was fixed in some way to the cart (perhaps with a couple of gudgeon pins) it would only need its front legs to pull the cart.
I doubt if Jackson has even noticed the strange creature as he seems more interested in telegraph poles.
Anyway as you say a very strange photo all round.
Your memory serves you well; the New Inn is obvious. On the opposite side of the road is, as you say, The Lamb and Salmon which became The Quiet Woman. Rather a contradiction of terms I suppose.
The Gospel Hall was at the time the photo was taken The Partington Liberal Club.
And again you are correct with the Seven Stars which is now the workshop for the antique shop; I nearly said junk shop but stopped just in time.
The 2 most popular pubs in Horwich End were strangely The Quiet Woman and The Seven Stars and both disappeared a long time ago.
Most business dealings and meetings were always arranged in either of those Public Houses.
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Hello HE,
A 1904 postcard showing The Jodrell Arms.
An interesting feature of this card is that both the horses have 4 legs each.
I think there is a telegraph pole on the Station Approach which will probably distract Mr Jackson if he does indeed view this particular photo.
It will not be necessary for him to judge the age of the card by mystically looking at the horses as the date is written on the front of the card.
Pity that as I was rather looking forward to his analysis.
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Good evening R. S-S
Many thanks for your postings. You say that the horses in the picture have four legs. However, on closer inspection it appears that although both horses have two back legs they only have one front leg!
With reference to G Jackson I've also noticed Jacko does seem to have some sort of obsession with telegraph poles and telephone wires. Although his knowledge of historical Whaley is very good his contributions seem to get stranger and more obscure every day. It will be interesting to see his comments on this postcard.
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HE & R.S-S. The answer is obvious the first photo is not a bad photo but the horse did in fact have only two legs as did all horses at that time.The next photograph in which the horses had only 3 legs and nowadays all horses have 4 legs. Evolution my dear Watson evolution.
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Knowing CllrJon and his hatred of all creatures great and small, I'm sure he has something to do with it! Edited by user 03 September 2010 23:15:07(UTC)
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Here's the Station Hotel in Furness Vale. I am unable to date this photograph but note the shopfront at the far end of the pub. The board above the door reads "Robinson's" parabuild attached the following image(s):
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As I said before it's all a matter of evoloution. This is one of the first photos of the famous racehorse Arkle's Great-Great-Great Grandfather
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I mean: not typical certainly not expected but perfectly ridiculous.
Mr Jackson you seem intent on taking this forum down the same route that was opened by you know who; and you know what happened to him. Let’s just hope for your sake Jon or Mr Truman don’t see it.
I really can not believe what I have just seen. Absolutely ridiculous get a grip man.
Anyway rant over so now we can get back to some, hopefully, sensible discussions:
HE,
I know this is a little out of town but perhaps you have the occasional lunch or tea at this establishment.
The Hanging Gate:
Arkle’s grandfather how ridiculous.
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I will ignore Jacko on this occasion as this is a thread on historical photographs of local pubs and nothing to do with horses or telecommunications.
Back to the original topic. Nice photo Parabuild.
R. S-S, I can confirm I have visited the Hanging Gate in the past but it's a bit to close to Chapel for my liking.
Only 8 more local pubs to go.
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How about this not as far out as the hanging gate
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