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I'm researching family history and Edmund LACEY is shown as Manager Of Colliery And Iron Works in 1861 at Whaley Bridge. Does anyone know which colliery this was ? There is also an early photo of the Cottage, Whaley Bridge (attached) which the family left in 1863... anybody recognise ? Thanks Tim Lunt
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Hi Tim
I would say that the photo you have posted is a very early Photo of Throstledale I have posted a photo of Throstledale around the 1920s for you to compare, as you will note things have altered with the building of the much larger Edwardian house adjoining but the old Farmhouse in your photo I am sure is Throstledale, interestingly it looks in need of some TLC with two different window styles and a sag in the roof, the windows with the small panes are typical of early cottages in the area.
Thank you for posting an early Image if you have any more that you think may be Whaley Bridge or the surrounding area we would love to see them.
As for thr mine one of our forum coal experts will I am sure come up with an answer for you although he was only manager for a very short time and we did have a number of mines Gisbourne Pit at the bottom of The Bings is the nearest to Throstledale or Boothmans although I am not sure if that was still working in 1861 shallcross attached the following image(s): |
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Dear Shallcross,
I think you may me wrong in saying it is Throsledale. The lintels above the windows do not match. Is it not a small house at the bottom of Elnor Lane?????
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Morning GJ
I take your point about the Lintels but look at the overall building It has an off set front door the chimneys are the same, there is a building attached to the left and there is a tree to the right there is probably around 40 years between the photos and due to the amount of construction work carried out at Throstledale I would suggest that when new windows were fitted for some reason they changed the Lintels, unusual I know but I also had a look this morning at the 1861 census and it gives Edmund Lacy (colliery manager) his wife 5 children and a houskeeper living at Throstledale, (ref Chapel en le frith district 9) the houses you refer to on Elnor Lane (Shallcross Cottages) have different chimneys and doors etc |
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Many thanks for all this. I'd thought Throstledale was a place, rather than a house. It seems to have had a complete makeover in the 1920's as the end wall has also been changed somewhat. I just googled Throstledale and it comes up on New Horwich Rd but the houses to be seen from streetview look more recent...so has it been demolished ? I attach 2 other photos that I have, dated 1862, one of Mrs Mary Lacey and Bepps the dog, the other of 3 daughters (l-r) Eleanor, Gertrude and Florence in a garden (presumably at Throstledale). Sadly I have no image of Edmund himself !
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Dear Shallcross,
If I had a hat on I would doff it to you. Well done!!
J.G.
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Tim123 - fantastic photos of the Lacey family - very clear. Thank you for posting them. 
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Mr Jackson,
I have a suspicion that you think of yourself as something of an historian when it comes to Whaley Bridge.
Just how you can mix up the cottage at Throstledale with Shallcross Mill Cottage I have no idea.
I presume that you were in fact referring to Shallcross Mill Cottage although the name of that residence seems to have escaped you.
So just for comparison purposes I will let you see a photo of the cottage that you describe as “a small house at the bottom of Elnor Lane?????”.
You will see they are nothing like each other.
R. S-S
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Is Mad Jacko attempting to impersonate the Chairman of the Town Council?
I think it's appropriate to remind him what a serious offence this is.
G. Jackson wrote:
Dear Shallcross,
If I had a hat on I would doff it to you. Well done!!
J.G.
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"Infamy, infamy etc. etc" ( as per Carry-on film)
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Regarding Throstledale, the very early photo is fascinating and shows the house before the late Victorian extension. It is believed that the occupants who built the large extension (not a separate house) intended to build a matching extension and demolish the old cottage. This didn't happen, it is said, because they had a very large family and funds ran out. Probably at the same time as the extension was built, the front door in the centre was altered to a window, and the door moved round the side of the house, as seen in the 1920s photo. A schoolroom was also built at the back of the house. The extension was demolished in the mid 1980s, so the house now looks more like the old picture, but without the whitewash! The house has been in the same family since 1948.
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