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Gnatalee  
#1 Posted : 16 May 2009 18:01:53(UTC)
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Hi everyone

Once again I have an item which may stir some memories.

These scans were from a Taxal parish magazine from 1953.  They are the advertisements for local businesses which were in the magazine and I thought this might invoke a few memories !!

Have fun !!

Gnats

 

 

 

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#2 Posted : 16 May 2009 18:46:54(UTC)
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A very good evening to you Gnatalee,
 
Well I don’t know how you do it but you have once again introduced one of my pet subjects: the shops of Whaley Bridge.
 
I have some advertisements that may predate yours by about 50 years. I’ll get working on it this very weekend.
 
By the way Gnats I hope to be able to post a photograph on here in about a week’s time that will be of great interest to you personally. Well I hope so anyway.  It will assist you in your research of your family tree and also your family history. I can’t say any more at the moment so you must bear with me.
 
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#3 Posted : 16 May 2009 19:16:13(UTC)
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Hi R. S-S

This all sounds very interesting ! I look forward to anything which helps with the family history. Am off to Gloucestershire soon in search of the Jones', since I know that's where the barber was from !!

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Gnats,

Your scans of the local businesses advertisements in particular F.Hulme local radio dealer reminds me of a story one of my uncles once told me. Televisions in those days were full of the old type valves.

My uncle took the tv to Mr Hulme for repair and was told the tv could be collected in a few days time. On collection Mr Hulme told uncle that he had fitted two new valves and said the cause of the valves blowing was that there was now to many westerns on tv and the gunshot did not do the valves any good.

 

 
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That makes perfect sense to me!
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#6 Posted : 18 May 2009 19:31:02(UTC)
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Me too,
 
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#7 Posted : 18 May 2009 19:40:53(UTC)
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Can't argue that one

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When I was having some work done on my car once, I asked what the problem was, and added "Please tell me in simple terms - I'm not very good at mechanical jargon". The mechanic smiled and said "When you switched the engine off, it got its knickers in a twist and had an hissy fit". I immediately understood what was wrong!
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#9 Posted : 22 May 2009 19:17:57(UTC)
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EUREKA1 I have eventully logged on thanks to two helpful soles (sorry I mean two helpful souls). I am interested in the numbering of the shops on Market St. W.B. On the last advert you posted Gnats, Ashbys is shown as number 11 Market st. Now the same shop will be 18. Footsteps was originally number 10 and some years later was changed to 14, I thought this was probably before the 1950's but according to Gnats Taxal Parish magazine ad. it appears not to be the case. Does anyone know when the street was re-numbered? Comments by shopkeepers reminds me the story about the first proprietier of the shoe shop who was a Quaker. On a Sunday morning heused to go witnessing to out lying farms and passing thr Railway pub said to a man about to go in don't go in there Jack Satens in there. Jack's response was he will have to pay for His own I've only 2d.
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#10 Posted : 22 May 2009 20:49:03(UTC)
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Excellent ! And when you think about it, he'd have to have more than 2d in his pocket today ! (Unless he's an MP and then we'd all pay for it !)

I can't help you with the date of the renumbering of the properties, I only have the copy of this particular parish magazine because it has a family baptism in it (MINE !)
I'm not sure I can think of a reason why you would re-number properties once built - surely if a property had been removed then the number of that building just isn't used?

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#11 Posted : 25 May 2009 12:42:12(UTC)
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Hey George,
 
It’s very nice to see you back with us on here. I had given up on you; and only last week I had a problem with a pair of sandals and needed your advice. Because I could not contact you they are now, sadly, on their way to the Council Tip and ultimately to the Great Shoe Repairer in the Sky.
 
If only you had been able to register last week George I may have made them last another six or seven years.
 
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EUREKA1 I have eventully logged on thanks to two helpful soles (sorry I mean two helpful souls). I am interested in the numbering of the shops on Market St. W.B. On the last advert you posted Gnats, Ashbys is shown as number 11 Market st. Now the same shop will be 18. Footsteps was originally number 10 and some years later was changed to 14, I thought this was probably before the 1950's but according to Gnats Taxal Parish magazine ad. it appears not to be the case. Does anyone know when the street was re-numbered? Comments by shopkeepers reminds me the story about the first proprietier of the shoe shop who was a Quaker. On a Sunday morning heused to go witnessing to out lying farms and passing thr Railway pub said to a man about to go in don't go in there Jack Satens in there. Jack's response was he will have to pay for His own I've only 2d.

 

 
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#12 Posted : 25 May 2009 13:21:25(UTC)
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Hi,

This photo is from around the 50's and shows off Market Street and its traditional shop fronts.   It's possible some of you may even recognize the people caught on camera !

No problems with parking here either.....

I had thought that the  'touching in' at the back was to cover up the old mine working equipment, but perhaps this is not the case. Does anyone know when the mine equipment was removed and the pit entrance covered over ? 

 

Cheers

Jon.

 

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#13 Posted : 25 May 2009 15:15:16(UTC)
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Hello Gnatalee,
 
I have in front of me the Taxal Church Magazine for January, 1891.
 
On the front cover it says: “May be had from J. PALFREYMAN, News Agent, Horwich End.
 
I think this is the very first such publication and it was obtainable at a cost of one penny (1D)
 
“The Church has just been restored at a cost of almost £2,000.00 and if they had painted the windows it would have considerably exceeded £2,000.00”
 
“Next to the Church is the Churchyard, which was called by our forefathers ‘God’s Acre’ the days when this graveyard was overgrown with nettles six feet high and other sorts of rank weeds are, we hope, past and gone, but in order to maintain the Churchyard in a becoming condition, what must be done?
A fund should be got up and it is to be understood the surviving relatives of those who sleep in the dust of Taxal Graveyard might come and put in order their graves.”
 
There are no advertisers in January 1891.
 
By September 1891 there were three advertisers: The Manchester Limited (Royal Exchange):
Lunch, Dinner and Tea.
 
The Specials Fish with Chip Potatoes and bread and butter and Tea. (One shilling and sixpence.)
 
And; R Philips & Son 73 Deansgate Manchester. Agents for
The “K” Shooting Boots and Dr. Jaegers Sanitary Boots and Shoes.
 
And: On the front cover: Diamond Engagement Rings, “Pure Quality”, wholesale prices at Pridham’s , 8 St Ann’s Square, Manchester.
 
Soon we were down to just the Pridham’s adverts.
 
Next time I’ll give you some early local advertisers and their phone numbers.
 
 
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Gnatalee wrote:

Hi everyone

Once again I have an item which may stir some memories.

These scans were from a Taxal parish magazine from 1953.  They are the advertisements for local businesses which were in the magazine and I thought this might invoke a few memories !!

Have fun !!

Gnats

 

 

 

 

 
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#14 Posted : 25 May 2009 17:29:42(UTC)
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This photo is from around the 50's and shows off Market Street and its traditional shop fronts.   It's possible some of you may even recognize the people caught on camera !

No problems with parking here either.....

 

Well, what an interesting and fab photo !! 

Taken at a time when there weren't many cars around (and can't you tell !) the detail of the shops is really interesting ( to me, specifically).

I'm not sure what year the photo was taken but it may be that the shop on the right-hand side of the street with the awning is a fruit and veg shop - my aunt and uncle had a fruit and veg shop there for a number of  years and was a great source of entertainment for me when on a week's stay with my grandparents.

On the left-hand side I remember Lou Carter's newsagents shop and also a butcher's shop which, at the moment, I can't remember the name of but I do remember that the land at at back of the building ran behind the houses and garden on Bridge Street and I seem to remember that the daugher had a pony / horse there. 

Happy days !!! 

Gnats
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#15 Posted : 25 May 2009 19:57:38(UTC)
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#16 Posted : 26 May 2009 11:37:28(UTC)
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Hello George and Gnatalee,
 
I have moved forward from 1891 to 1930 with the Parish Magazine.
 
It is now printed by HK Sykes, The Peak Press, Chapel.
 
By now we have local advertisers:
 
A Kirk is a coal merchant and his phone number was WB 6
Livesley the chemist has the phone number WB 42
Whaley Bridge Cash Drapery Co., 12 Market Street Specialising in “Fitu” corsets (No Phone)
TH Coates 16 Market Street, Opticians and film developers WB 41
The Whaley Bridge Garage (Prop J Potter) WB 26
J Broklehurst (Tailors) agents for Radiac shirts, 26 Market Street  WB 77
John drinkwater (Butcher) 2 Market Street WB 31
J Roome (Fishmonger) 4 Market Street, stocker of pure block ices WB 37
H Tomkinson (Hairdresser and tobacconist) Buxton Road (No Phone)
Cooper and Pearson (Grocers) Est 1845   WB 11
J Carter (Newsagent) stationer, bookbinder, printer and lending library 222 Market Street (No Phone)
Misses A&S Potter (General and Fancy Drapers) Ladies underwear 6 Buxton Road (No Phone)
 
There is also a quite strange advert: J H Proctor (Undertaker) Old Road who also gives estimates for Bungalows and Garages etc (No Phone)
 
I can’t, for the moment at any rate, locate who had the phone number WB 1
 
More to follow if anyone is in the slightest bit interested.
 
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Hello again George,
 
I have just remembered who had phone number 1.
 
It was Andrews (Butchers) in Horwich End. You see Horwich End was always far more progressive than Whaley.
 
It started off as Whaley Bridge 1 and then years later the GPO, to give out more lines added 600 to the phone numbers so Andrews was then 601.  Even later the GPO had to add another 2000 to the lines. So the new number was WB 2601.
Later still BT (don’t you just love them?) added 73 in front so Andrews was WB 732601 which it still is today although it is now another butcher who trades out of there.
 
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Fascinating how one address has kept the 'same' telephone number through its various incarnations.

That price for Specials fish and chip potatoes with B&B and a tea for 1'6d had better not catch on though!
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Good evening to you Jon,
 
I think your photo was taken not in the 50’s but in the 6o’s.
 
If you look at the vehicle stopped at the crossing going towards Horwich End, it’s just at the side of the old Belisha Beacon, I think it is a Mini Van which was not in production until January 1960.
 
A brilliant photo all the same and I am about to have some tuition later this week on how to put photos on the forum so I’ll see what I’ve got on Market Street. Interesting also is that your photo is of ‘High Street’, Whaley Bridge.
 
If all succeeds I may well be able to cope by myself and so in anticipation of a successful education may I thank you for all your help?
 
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Hi,

This photo is from around the 50's and shows off Market Street and its traditional shop fronts.   It's possible some of you may even recognize the people caught on camera !

No problems with parking here either.....

I had thought that the  'touching in' at the back was to cover up the old mine working equipment, but perhaps this is not the case. Does anyone know when the mine equipment was removed and the pit entrance covered over ? 

 

Cheers

Jon.

 

 

 
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#20 Posted : 26 May 2009 19:21:18(UTC)
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Morning All

Having typed information on the above I failed to post it properly. I'll have another go. I cannot date the year of the  photo shops didn't change as quickly in the "olden days", the greengrocers you refer to Gnats was owned by someone called Waterhouse around 1950 then later by Bernard and Peggy Hill, I don't know if these names mean anything to you, The butcher was probably owned by Norman and Florence Heathcote who had three daughters. Re signs of the Gisbourne pit, I cannot remember any signs of it but I remember a pile of timber on the land owned by the Methodist Church on the left of Caldene Terrace, whether this was a sign of the pit head I cannot say. 

Going back to the original adverts you posted Gnats was one for F. Moore I remeber being in the shop when I was a small boy and seeing Mr. Moore cut a carmel because it was fractionally over 4 ounces for another customer he was serving. I've never seen this happen before or since, he must have been having a credit crunch. I wondered what he did with the half sweets.

You ask about funny things said by businesses owners, there were many funny things said by customers.

Those were the days!

 

 

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