You could try asking Martin at the Drum and Monkey. He used to rent one of the units and it's a good excuse to pay a visit.

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Nev, Martin moved out of the Drum about 3/4 weeks ago & has gone south, so you won't be able to catch him there anymore. Simon has taken over the running of the Drum now.

........ and for my next trick, I'll figure out how to send a private message :-/

May I suggest to take up the offer of pizzabutty to discuss one to one to answer any issues. The chaps at the yard are friendly and approachable and you can if you want to pop down for a chat also . In farness it is an industrial site and has been for over a century, next to a. live railway. It's being used as a non commercial activity and some neighbourly agreement will be far more fruitful.

Seriously, the guys are everyday folk who just like to have a hobby and definitely prefer to get along. I'm sure some agreed voluntary working hours could be agreed, etc. My neighbour used to repeatedly mow his lawn at 7.30am every Sunday morning until we had a chat and it got sorted. We didn't need a third party to sort it out. Infact we enjoy a beer no and again. My other neighbour loves his chimenea. We Don't ! He only does it now when nobodys washing it out. It's all about approach. If you can work out the PM system. We can chat more. Let me know! Cheers .

Thanks for that, it seems there is no PM option, but I'll give it some thunk!

It seems to me, Trummerfrau, you  may be one of the banger racing members or have a vested interest. Would any of the participants like this activity close to their homes? 

Whether or not, lets look at the facts:

The yard is an unsightly mess. I'm sure the guys are friendly, everyday folk, and it's irrelevant whether the activity is hobby or  commercial. Conversely, if it were commercial more regular working hours would be kept, thus  evening and weekend activity be would unnecessary.    The noise made by grinders, hammers and unsilenced engines is unacceptable. These activities can't be compared with a lawn mower!! Likewise, trains run one each way every hour, the noise last 20-30secs, so there's no comparison.

The area may be part industrial, but it is adjacent to residences. I understand the yard is licensed for the bagging of aggregates and building materials, has an application for change of use been made?

At the far end of the yard many vehicles are stacked  2 & 3 high.  I expect that the vehicles will contain residual fuel and oil. Most still contain flammable material inside (plastic trim, seats etc.) and are still fitted with tyres. In the event of a fire there is no way that the cottages overlooking the yard would escape. Has a risk assessment be made in conjunction with Derbyshire Fire Service and HPBC Environmental Health? I think not.

I agree with Stress'ed2013, the burning of waste is anti-social and hazardous. In fact the DOE will take a very dim view of it irrespective of the activity being commercial or  non-commercial. The waste is classed as commercial and industrial.


If Trummerfrau, Stress'ed2013 and Pizaabutty can arrange a chat I would like to participate.

Thanks for the input KGP and Trummerfrau, it's always useful to get the balance of different sides.

In fairness, they have been quieter of late, perhaps it's just coincidence, or perhaps they have got wind of the fact their activities were causing so much upset. Time will tell.....

Shame this forum doesn't have a PM facility as without it, I think this discussion has achieved as much as it can do. Thanks for everyone's contributions though- much appreciated.

Stress'ed2013

Can I just say to the lads in the yard, I've just heard someone shouting 'no revving, no revving'! Sincerely, I really appreciate it. It's not about NO noise for me, it's about what's reasonable noise.
If the recent reduction in noise is deliberate because word has got to you about this discussion, thanks, it's been a much nicer place to be these last couple of weekends. Hope the racing goes well!

Stress'ed2013

VB is a new contributor to this forum issue, our numbers are growing. I support his comments entirely.

For anyone local to Gisbourne Yard who was not at home over the weekend, work ceased on Saturday after 19:45. Some engine revving and general hammering and grinding all day.

Sunday's noise was mainly due to the use of a petrol driven grinder being used to cut up lengths of steel box section. This was used in frequent burst throughout the afternoon. An electrical  grinder was almost continuous through the day. Two occasions where  un-silenced engines were run. The shouting and general "engineering" noise spoilt a sunny SUNDAY afternoon in the garden.

Early in the week I had a visit from a member of the HPBC Environmental Health Dept. I have been issued with a log-sheet for "Nuisance Investigation", which includes the burning of waste. I also understand that the Planning Dept are aware of the change of use.

I too am a motorsport fan and  don't want their hobby ruined,  but they should show a great deal more consideration to the local residents. It's Bank Holiday Monday............will it rain?????


 I also hope that the recently posted development plans are passed and that the yard is quickly turned into a residential area.