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Fernilee Toll Bar in 1939 I believe. Where was this I wonder ? parabuild attached the following image(s):
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Well if you opened your eyes and looked at the photo you would see.
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Hello Mr Parabuild,
Just up the road a little way and on the right was a complete village. This village has now been totally removed.
In fact it was probably being removed at the time of your very fine photo.
You haven’t got a photo of the village have you?
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The Toll Bar was, I assume, where Elnor Lane meets Long Hill. Now as to a missing village R.S-S, you are perhaps referring to that area which was submerged under the waters of the reservoir. I have no other photographs of Fernilee I am afraid.
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Hello once again Mr Parabuild,
First of congratulations and top marks for geography with regards to that finest of examples of Toll Houses.
(There is a similar one on the way out of Macclesfield towards Leek which I recommend you go and have a look at. Actually it may be on the internet; I really don’t know. But yet another task for you.)
I have a couple of photos of Fernilee Toll Bar but yours is very good indeed.
Actually, David, I was not at all referring to any submerged buildings; in the 1930’s a village was situated above the Toll Bar but it was completely gone shortly after.
The gunpowder mill is under the deepest part of the reservoir.
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Great photo Parabuild,
The retro telegraph poles are wonderful!
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R. Stephenson-Smythe wrote:
Well if you opened your eyes and looked at the photo you would see.
Mr. Parabuild asked a perfectly civil question, is this sort of comment really necessary?
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I know of two toll cottages on the Macclesfield - Leek road. The first is at the corner of Robin Lane at Lyme Green and the other on the left just before Bosley Crossroads. Both are, I think a bit larger than that at Fernilee. I have looked at O.S. maps of various dates and still cannot find a lost village although I am no doubt looking at the wrong location.
I have been looking at the Times newspaper archives and read of a near tragedy at Fernilee in 1964. On the 12th October two men became trapped underground. A tunnel was being dug to link Errwood and Fernilee reservoirs. The tunnel entrance collapsed and it was 24 hours before the men were rescued. Fernilee made the National press for two days running.
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Hello once more, David,
I just know people will start to talk if we carry on like this.
The village I am talking about was built for all the workmen who were employed to build Fernilee reservoir.
It was built on the right hand side of the road that is now the approach road to Fernilee Dam. There were quite a large number of temporary houses there. But when the job was complete the houses went.
I have got a photo of it knocking about somewhere so I’ll scan it and put it on this thread that you have started.
In the meantime would you let us have a copy of the newspaper report that you have just mentioned or else provide us with the link to it?
It sounds very interesting.
Thank you
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David,
The village for the workers was, as I described, down the incline going towards the Fernilee Reservoir which was under construction.
It was a bit like the site set-ups you see nowadays for by-passes etc except in those days the workers actually lived on site.
I understand The Shady Oak did terrific business during the construction works.
Below is a snap of the village but there is a better one somewhere which shows the full extent. I shall try to find it for you later.
Don’t forget the link to the accident. I have nothing much on Errwood Reservoir but I might have a couple of photos of the tunnels under Fernilee.
We must meet up and I’ll let you have a few copies. I do see you wandering around Furness from time to time.
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Now all is revealed R.S-S. I am sure that I have seen a similar but less distinct picture, previously. Do stop and say "Hello" if you should see me wandering around Furness or elsewhere.
Here are the articles from The Times of 12th and 13th October 1964:
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Only a week or two ago, I found an excellent photograph on Flickr of a North Western bus in Macclesfield taken in 1935 . This bus, a Tilling Stevens of 1928 closely resembles that in the Fernilee village photo
www.flickr.com/photos/93173492@N00/2592382101/
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The Guardian reported frequently and at length on the planning and construction of the Goyt reservoirs. In June 1932, the construction site ,then six months old, was described. About 600 men worked on the site; many lived at the temporary "village" and others lodged in and around Whaley Bridge and "wherever the good people of the district can make them comfortable". This work force was supplemented by six bus loads of workmen who travelled from Stockport each day. Perhaps the bus shown in R. S-S's photo was one of the vehicles. Construction was expected to take five years.
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And here is the type of conditions the men were supposed to work in,
Note all the tools and safety equipment as supplied by Walker & Howell. I believe they are all still in stock.
There were no showers in the ‘village’ and they probably washed themselves off in the streams and made themselves as presentable as possible before going ‘home’ for tea or to The Shady.
They would wear the same clothes constantly.
The Fernilee Reservoir is a huge topic and we should probably start a new thread. There are lots of photos knocking around showing the Valley as it was and each stage of the construction.
It deserves its own thread. As I say it was, in its day, a truly massive job. Certainly on a par with later day achievements such as the by-pass or publishing the Council minutes.
Fernilee Reservoir changed many things, not only in the Goyt Valley, but also in Whaley Bridge.
A good topic I think.
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5th April 1924 parabuild attached the following image(s):
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Any indication of price anywhere Parabuild? Edited by user 04 March 2010 20:25:56(UTC)
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No prices quoted anywhere Mr Fedup.. Were you interested in buying ?
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Oh yes Parabuild! Just another property to add to my portfolio! Edited by user 04 March 2010 22:38:29(UTC)
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And a few more acres for your consideration Mr. F parabuild attached the following image(s):
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In August 1924 the press was reporting that newly built council houses in Fernilee had "collapsed" due to mining subsidence. As the residents were being housed by neighbours, Chapel Rural District Council refused to re-house them. They would instead build two new concrete houses without delay. Edited by user 05 March 2010 22:02:04(UTC)
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Good to see that the press thought Whaley Bridge was a progressive place even then |
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