The photo was taken at the top of the wireworks "brew", there is still a gap where the pub or toll house was, just across the road.

I've just been to take a photo, and have superimposed the missing building on it from R. S-S's old photograph. As always the trees make things look different, but Eccles Pike is pretty much the same.

I think the original road went past the front of Bugsworth Hall, which is why New Road is so-called. You can stlll see evidence of a track leading from where the building was up onto the lane between Bugsworth Hall and Derby Knowle, but I think the original road out of Buggie went past Derby Knowle cottages rather than dropping down to New Road as per my description above.

I'm not sure if the building in question was an inn, a toll house, or both, but presumably the more alcoholically-inclined lads & lasses from the historic photos of Whaley pubs thread will tell us.  If it was indeed a pub, then Robert's photo should also be added to that section of the history website.

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Hi Moogie

Yes that is what I meant, maybe he modified his mark?

The problem is that there were a number of John Simpsons at the same time, all Stonemasons and most from the same extended family, for instance Rev William Simpsons family came from Dakins farm just down the road from Toll Bar View, his father was a Stonemason and was partly in charge of the construction of the viaducts at Chinley (Very proudly he still had the watch that timed the men), The John Simpson of Rosey Bank married Margaret Creswell and had already lost 3 children by the time the Census referred to by Gnats was taken, The Simpsons as Stonemasons worked on the Chinley Tunnel  and settled in Edale for a short time, my ancestor John Simpson around the same time lived at Lydgate and was cousin to the Rosey Bank John Simpson he was baptised Nov 2 1823 and buried at Chapel June 12 1907

Some of the Simpson Family from Chinley were Non Conformist and are buried at Chinley Chapel. most of the others are in Chapel Church yard, hope this is of interest.

cheers elmo your a star......stupidly the one place i have not been looking....so i will get on it!..

many thanks

moogie

The 1896 OS map shows the building as a toll house.

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Next is the airshaft part way along the tunnel.

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great pics....gather you went in there! didnt realise it was so long!....

as for the quarry...where was that?

cheers

moogie

mmmm thats why im confused...

http://www.brocross.com/iwps/pages/quarries/quarries.htm

the tunnel next to the chaple...is the one i was wondering about ...as couldnt imagine where the quarry was in that direction...as heads toward the rail way line...as mentione at the botom of the linked page...