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#41 Posted : 18 February 2011 14:58:49(UTC)
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A newspaper report of 1865 regarding evasion of tolls describes the "Whaley Bridge Gate".

  A legal action involved a drover coming from Taddington along the Buxton - Manchester Turnpike with 120 sheep.  On the Taddington side of this gate is an inn called the White Hart about 100 yards from the gate.  The landlord has a field adjoining the inn and the sheep were grazed here overnight.  The following morning, the sheep were taken out of the field by another gate, across two other fields, on to a portion of an old road and then back on to the turnpike beyond the toll bar. In this way it was possible to avoid paying the tolls. 

100 yards from the White Hart would put one at the junction with Bridge Street.

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#42 Posted : 18 February 2011 16:54:38(UTC)
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Forum working well, keep the replies and theories coming,

Parabuild in 1865 which was 140 years later the new bridge had been built next to the White Hart  and there was a Toll on that, once again I belive it was on the Cheshire side of the river, there are a number of newspaper reports that mention either the Toll or the Keeper, I would determine from the description given that the sheep were placed behind The White Hart (Wakes field) and then taken down the side of Cromford High Peak and out over the Old Bridge on Bridge Street, crossing of course from Fernilee over the river to Whaley.

In the 1724 Act Severe penalties were included for such an event occuring avoiding the Toll was not to be allowed.

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#43 Posted : 18 February 2011 17:58:54(UTC)
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buggyite wrote:

This "toll houses have a corner cut off" business - it is clearly not always the case.

If you have a look at post #39 in the "photos of buggy" thread, it looks like a normal rectangular footprint building with a porch at the front.

 

 

Hello Buggyite,
 
I did not mean to suggest that each and every Toll House was designed with the sliced off end but it is a regular feature.
 
As for your square Toll Houses: one day I had a drive out with the Missus and we were both looking for Toll Houses. We went towards the Wanted Inn at Sparrow Pit and you would bet your last quid that there would be a Toll House at that point but there was not a ‘cut off’ building in sight but when we slowed down the square house just opposite the Wanted Inn has a name plaque saying “Toll Bar Cottage”.
Similarly on Sheffield Road or Castleton Road going out of Chapel towards Castleton at the junction where you can turn to Ford Hall is another square building that most certainly was a Toll House.
There is also a Toll House in Whaley that has had the ‘slice’ built up square and that too was a Toll.
 
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#44 Posted : 20 February 2011 23:44:30(UTC)
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Page 1 of the act lays out the reasons for making this road into a Turnpike, saying that many parts of the existing road are impassable in the winter season and other parts are so narrow as to cause danger to persons while passing, The new Turnpike shall with convenient speed be amended, widened and enlarged and be kept in good and sufficient repair.
 
There were 106 Trustees and a group of any 5 could make a decision about the road, notably for Whaley they included, Edward Downes, Edward Downes Jnr, Edmund Jodrell, Francis Jodrell and John Shallcross, in fact they all seem to be Gentry of one sort or another they probably all had land interest, the list also includes well known landowners such as Fitzherberts (Tissington), Arden (Buxton), Legh (Adlington), Bagshawe ( Chapel), Eyre (Tideswell) etc.
 
The first legislation deals with any persons owning or renting adjoining land to the Turnpike, if they let any person cross their land to avoid paying the Toll a 10 shilling fine be immediately levied, by order of The King, quite a sum in 1724.
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#45 Posted : 27 May 2011 11:53:06(UTC)
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Hi,

Mr Anonymouse has posted me the following image of the famous Goyt Bridge.

Cheers

Jon.

JonG attached the following image(s):
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Jon Goldfinch - Forum Administrator and Town Councillor
Whaley Bridge Town Council - Fernilee Ward

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