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#1 Posted : 14 April 2013 16:41:07(UTC)
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Just noticed a post on Twitter about the "Goyt Valley Rave" last night - does anyone know anything about it?
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#2 Posted : 14 April 2013 16:51:34(UTC)
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Over at Erwood.  They've made quite a mess by all accounts.  Lots of litter and reports of 'street art'.  Revelers could be witnessed wandering back through Whaley all morning, some apparently under the apprehension that we were closer than Buxton.

“It all sounds like the sort of scheme Elmer Fudd might dream up while drunk.”


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#3 Posted : 14 April 2013 19:06:52(UTC)
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I was up that way with the dogs about 11am and there was a constant stream of teens and 20s around making their hazy way home. They're obviously more moneyed than they used to be because apart from all the walking traffic the area was also crawling with very lost Manchester taxis! Less amusingly there are graffiti tags on nearly every road sign and even a few on some stone walls (one very close to the wall niche shrine on Goyt Lane, but the shrine itself is unscathed), And a huge amount of can and bottle rubbish in the verges and hedges. The epicentre of the event was apparently Goytsclough Quarry, I dread to think what state that's in. There were also police waggons at both Buxton and Whaley stations.
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#4 Posted : 14 April 2013 19:09:57(UTC)
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About 200 were walking up thro' Fernilee after midnight, very noisily and with what seemed like a large police escort flying about flashing lights. This morning from about 6am on they were dribbling back down.
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#5 Posted : 15 April 2013 12:05:30(UTC)
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For every event of this kind, where it's held in a National Park and there are tacit allowances granted and assurances given to 'make good' or 'clear up' and with a consequence if not, then this weekend's event should have been deemed the line not to be stepped over. 
It clearly was, so now sanctions should be imposed officially and rigorously acted upon by the Peak District National Park authority to restrict access to this area of national importance and natural beauty within a designated time frame: 9pm Fridays to 9am Sundays ( 9am Bank Holiday Mondays ).
No-one NEEDS to access that area by car; it's not a public highway or has homes on it. Indeed it is an area of outstanding natural beauty and for all to enjoy. Witnessing detritus left by hoards of members of society who had no regard for the environment they no doubt travelled exhorbitant about of miles to get to, is only ever going to rile those who do love and respect the area. 
To complain about the police is futile; their hands are tied, they can only act once the law is broken. This wasn't a policed event ( that would have cost the organiser/s money ) so their resources were limited with what they could police.. I'm assuming.
Fernilee and the Goyt Valley is vitally important to me.. it's my home turf. To give a comparative to those who don't think any harm was done here this weekend - it's tantamount to a dozen farmers taking full tanks of muck spreaders and blasting it all over Piccadilly Gardens, or all the way through the Arndale Centre. 

Drunken teenagers are not responsible members of society - they aren't even responsible anything in that condition. 

I will be sending the PDNPA and DCC a letter urging instant action to prevent this kind of mindless vandalism happening anytime soon or again, and urge others to do the same. It appears another 'rave' ( how quaint ) has been planned for 'bank holiday' - which, I don't know - or indeed where, but it's imperative something is actioned before another act of mindless vandalism can transpire.


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#6 Posted : 15 April 2013 13:58:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Ferni Go to Quoted Post

I will be sending the PDNPA and DCC a letter urging instant action to prevent this kind of mindless vandalism happening anytime soon or again, and urge others to do the same. It appears another 'rave' ( how quaint ) has been planned for 'bank holiday' - which, I don't know - or indeed where, but it's imperative something is actioned before another act of mindless vandalism can transpire.



Do you have the names/e-mail addresses of the right people to contact?
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#7 Posted : 15 April 2013 16:39:13(UTC)
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The following are named and shamed via the TWITTER feed. Perhaps Buxton police would care to follow-up these links and make the cretins clear up after the mess they've made.

Obviously Mancunian @AazMCFC
That walk from whaley bridge to goyte valley was heroic.

Charlotte Cam @CharlotteCam94
Feel like I've got half of goyt valley stuck up my nails

MAKO @MAKOMcr 2h
Massive big up to @Kydro for rocking this huge crowd at DRSS Goyt Valley Free Party! pic.twitter.com/nzFDKQpsa9

David Abbott @daveabbott1983
Thanks buxton for one of the best party's ever !! http://m.buxtonadvertise...in-goyt-valley-1-5585177 … Sorry about the mess #gashcollective @gashcollective <3 to all !!

jessicapaigexxxx @Jessfenox
Comedown wasn't too bad yesterday a lovely 4 hour journey home from Goyt Valley and Buxton..respect to @GASHcollective wish it never ended!

NAOMI @xnaomiflaherty
If you missed this, be jealous. Goyt Valley #GASHcollective #thewitchisdead http://instagram.com/p/YGagfrw2D2/

Rosey Lee @harrietrosex

Can't even cope raving in goyt valley celebrating my 18th
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#8 Posted : 15 April 2013 17:43:16(UTC)
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The Peak District National Park does not have the authority to restrict access to the area except in very special circumstances. It is "access land" as designated by the Countryside and Rights of Way Act (2000)and, as such, is always open to the public. Apart from which banning access to the area at weekends, as Ferni suggests, would greatly inconvenience a large number of decent hikers. I certainly would not obey such a restriction and I doubt that I am alone in that.

And why do you say that the police have their hands tied? There appear to have been numerous breaches of the Park by-laws.  But I doubt that they could arrest Charlotte for stealing the soil under her fingernails

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#9 Posted : 15 April 2013 19:04:18(UTC)
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I've heard various reports of people covered in blood, a constant stream of ambulances and many youngsters on Sunday morning who had no idea where they were. I'm not against people having a good time but I suspect they made no effort to take their mess home with them
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#10 Posted : 15 April 2013 19:39:20(UTC)
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I dont condone the mess or any damage, but do you ever remember being young and having fun? I bet many of you hold some stories about the excesses of your own youth , or those of friends you were closely associated with , which  you wouldn't be too proud about today.

It wouldn't surprise me that amongst the many that participated, there were a number who did care about the environment and the mess,who went out and had a great time but who also helped to sort stuff out. I suspect we wont hear their stories.

There were about 150 people on Saturday night who went past our house on Buxton Road at about 11.30 pm. They made lots of noise , but they didn't cause mayhem. They were all ages including kids and I actually thought they were football fans who had been kicked off a train. I saw no police cars, but I did see one ambulance going past. I will be interested to talk to the police in due course and find out what sort of problems there actually were.

I've heard reports about the various people going home on the Sunday, and by all accounts they were pleasant and polite, although some of them may not have been fully aware of where they were !

I repeat that I do not condone mindless vandalism or damage, and I certainly wouldn't want Goyt Valley to become a regular Rave destination, but personally I wouldn't want to condemn everyone because of the actions of a few.

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#11 Posted : 15 April 2013 19:58:47(UTC)
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Dear Jon

You are, as always, correct and if we all think back I've no doubt we were involved in things that maybe with hindsight were not as appropriate as we thought at the time.

I too, have heard stories of polite youngsters seemingly with no idea where they were or if whether they should be heading towards Macclesfield or Buxton to get home. My concern is that there could have been a serious accident - water, alcohol, uneven ground etc.

I hope some of them did clear up, I remember going to a party on a farm in my youth and the next day rather the worse for wear a small troop of us returned to clear up which was very much appreciated.

I'm not a party pooper but the safety aspect of unofficial events like this do worry me.

After some research on line it would appear that GASHcollective were the organisers - they have a web site and Twitter account alongside a text number you can subscribe to for updates. Perhaps following this web site would alert the authorities to when and where the next "event" might be?

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#12 Posted : 15 April 2013 21:15:12(UTC)
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Whatever the rights and wrongs: It up to those of who love the area to put things right. To that end I will be at Goyts Clough Quarry at 10 o'clock on Thursday morning with my boots, gloves and rubbish bags to start a clean up. I hope you can join me.
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#13 Posted : 15 April 2013 22:39:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: davethescope Go to Quoted Post
The Peak District National Park does not have the authority to restrict access to the area except in very special circumstances. It is "access land" as designated by the Countryside and Rights of Way Act (2000)and, as such, is always open to the public. Apart from which banning access to the area at weekends, as Ferni suggests, would greatly inconvenience a large number of decent hikers. I certainly would not obey such a restriction and I doubt that I am alone in that.
And why do you say that the police have their hands tied? There appear to have been numerous breaches of the Park by-laws.  But I doubt that they could arrest Charlotte for stealing the soil under her fingernails


Dave - you've misunderstood my words - perhaps they were small and packed tightly together, thus causing the eyes to scan rather than digest. I didn't suggest 'banning access' and certainly not to hikers ( I'm one myself ), or even to the entire Goyt Valley region.  Where 'raves' ( GASHcollective doesn't like that word nowadays, apparently ) are commonly known to ( spontaneously ) occur in the valley, then yes, there should be a vehicular access restriction imposed - and I can assure you they DO have the powers to close that gate across the road near the carpark atop the dam, and do so regularly. We hikers still have access as ever, we just have to park in designated areas. I have no problem with that, and I know the 80 + regular attendees of my organised walks in the Peak District would have no problem with it either. 

No doubt with this being slap bang in the middle of lambing season, I hope no further trauma was inflicted on the hapless creatures recent extreme weather conditions notwithstanding.

I've taken a read at Gash's Manifesto. It's quite indepth and insightful.... worth a read. 
There's a twit from one, who pasted a link to the Bux.Ad.  report of the night, apologising for the mess. I didn't read him offering to come and clear it up though. 

I also pressed play on one of the youtube recordings from the weekend. Seems this rave... sorry... event, was celebrating the demise of a well known politician. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y29FVFWn94o        

I'm resisting the urge to ridicule the Councillor once again. Maybe he has stuff in his own dim and distant past he has cause to reflect on with shame or embarrassment but to attempt to sugar coat the seriousness of Saturday's happy clappy event as some kind of 'harmless stuff that kids get up to' is quite nauseating to read.    - so, speak for yourself councillor.




As far as finding contact numbers/email address or names to contact at the National Park and Council - sorry, not had time yet to research it. 

Enjoy the noise 









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#14 Posted : 16 April 2013 00:02:00(UTC)
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Hi
Talking to people this evening it appears that though my experience of them on Buxton Rd was without problems, there was apparently damage done to wing mirrors on cars on Long Hill on the evening which is not good news. I'm also hearing that there has been a lot more tagging that has gone on. I suspect there will be some pictures of the mess up shortly and I doubt it will be pleasant viewing. 
I will  talk to the police and try and get a better picture of the evening and aftermath.
My views on the vandalism and damage are quite clear from my previous post. A minority always ruins things , and the majority suffer from the aftermath.
I cant make Thursday 10am as I'm working, but I can do Saturday 10am , and do a general  litter pick in the area, if Ferni hasn't beaten us to it..See you there...


Cheers
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#15 Posted : 16 April 2013 06:46:34(UTC)
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Just an observation here, but a couple or so years ago large groups of "Chav's" (word used at the time) caused damage in the Arndale in Manchester. They were hunted down by the police and prosecuted. Will these miscreants be hunted down for causing damage in the countryside......I suspect not! Mr Eavis has a large party most years, he employs large groups of litter pickers to clear up after the punters have gone home. At the end of it all there is not one crisp packet, tab end, ring-pull or needle to be found on the field. Only Cows! According to their web page the organisers of the Buxton "gathering" have stated they're lying low for a while........ now there is responsibility for you!
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Originally Posted by: JonG Go to Quoted Post

I cant make Thursday 10am as I'm working, but I can do Saturday 10am , and do a general  litter pick in the area, if Ferni hasn't beaten us to it..See you there...



Yes.  On reflection, Saturday might be a better day
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Originally Posted by: Ferni Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: davethescope Go to Quoted Post
The Peak District National Park does not have the authority to restrict access to the area except in very special circumstances. It is "access land" as designated by the Countryside and Rights of Way Act (2000)and, as such, is always open to the public. Apart from which banning access to the area at weekends, as Ferni suggests, would greatly inconvenience a large number of decent hikers. I certainly would not obey such a restriction and I doubt that I am alone in that.
And why do you say that the police have their hands tied? There appear to have been numerous breaches of the Park by-laws.  But I doubt that they could arrest Charlotte for stealing the soil under her fingernails


Dave - you've misunderstood my words - perhaps they were small and packed tightly together, thus causing the eyes to scan rather than digest.



I didn't misunderstand "restrict access to this area of national importance and natural beauty within a designated time frame: 9pm Fridays to 9am Sundays ( 9am Bank Holiday Mondays )."
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Originally Posted by: tyke Go to Quoted Post
....I suspect not! Mr Eavis has a large party most years, he employs large groups of litter pickers to clear up after the punters have gone home. At the end of it all there is not one crisp packet, tab end, ring-pull or needle to be found on the field. Only Cows! According to their web page the organisers of the Buxton "gathering" have stated they're lying low for a while........ now there is responsibility for you!

I hear you, Tyke. After reading their manifesto, they seem to have copious amounts of well intended advice on what to do, say and behave like when and if confronted by the police at such events. Advice on what to take, what not to and how to respect the locality they have been invited to at a moment's notice. They are forbidden from advertising on any social network where the event is to be held etc etc. It's all very 'responsible', so therefore the organisers hould bear the brunt of that responsibility should their party guests step over the line.
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I cant make Thursday 10am as I'm working, but I can do Saturday 10am , and do a general  litter pick in the area, if Ferni hasn't beaten us to it..See you there...
Cheers
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Do what you feel is your civic duty, Jon - make sure the Bux. Ad. or suchlike is there to take photos. Hey, make it a media event, raise awareness, be seen to be demonstrating your disgust and outrage at the invaders who have decimated our beloved valley. Maybe other local councillors , in Buxton and Chapel could get involved. Anything which will  provoke them into taking some form of preventative measures, using their elected powers to enable or promote. 

I, on the other hand, sorry -  will be working flat out both weekend days, aswell as each day up to it, so couldn't be there anyway. 
But, on principle, there's not a cat in hell's chance I'd be clearing up mess left by someone else's party. How preposterous, but I saw your tongue was in your cheek as you wrote that so I'll let you off .

Originally Posted by: davethescope Go to Quoted Post
....... Apart from which banning access to the area at weekends, as Ferni suggests, would greatly inconvenience a large number of decent hikers. I certainly would not obey such a restriction and I doubt that I am alone in that.

Dave - you said 'banning access', ​not I.  I suggested restricting vehicular access only at certain places at certain times of the week. What I inferred, now I have to clarify, is for the restriction to prevent large amounts of unsuitable vehicles containing rigging, stage lighting, generators and sound equipment into the selected arena for these events. 

Afterall, all other lawful festivals and parties have guidelines to adhere to. GASH insists it has a right to set up whatever it wants whenever and wherever it wants, with a total disregard for anything. I read the manifesto, as I said... 
I'll locate it again and show the reader.



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the GASH Manifesto:


For those of you that don't know, GASHcollective are a lose group of individuals who work together to organise events in the Greater Manchester area and beyond.
We put on freeparties, festivals, dirty clubnights, crazy events and are involved with many other independent projects. 
We like to mix up crowds, We like get people thinking.

What is a FREEPARTY?
A freeparty is a gathering of like-minded people. An all night or longer event, where people go to dance, socialise and have fun in an uninhibited way. Consider them temporary autonomous zones. Freeparties are generally in interesting venues or out in the countryside. A freeparty is more than just an event with free entry, in-fact freeparty organisers may sometimes ask for donations to help cover costs. Think of the term "freeparty" to mean "free" as in freedom. Freedom to have fun without the constraints of everyday life in a controlling and restrictive society.

With this freedom comes great responsibility. A freeparty is nothing like a clubnight that many people are used to. It is up to everyone in attendance to act sensibly; to look out for each other and respect fellow party goers, respect the venue and respect the local community. Don't just attend, and expect to be entertained.  Each person must contribute what they can to help shape the wider group effort. Everyone must leave attitudes at home and come together in cooperation in order that they, and everyone else, can get the most from the collective experience.
Some people call freeparties 'Raves'. This has become a term with many negative connotations, and we would like to phase it out.

IDEOLOGY
We at GASHcollective believe that partying in freedom is a primal human instinct that needs to be fulfilled. We are a social species, living everyday in a society that does its best to promote isolation and alienation. Boxing individuals off, buying and selling leisure time in exchange for our labour and compliance. A freeparty is a way to shake off social restrictions, to feel connected to people and to share in something amazing and joyous. A rare occasion when people must look out for one another, to work together to create something beautiful.
We believe that freeparties are a necessary form of activism in themselves. Something that must be worked hard for as part of a wider social struggle.
Many of the people involved in freeparties are also involved with other kinds of social and political activism, and freeparties are a great way to politicise people who otherwise wouldn't get involved. A way to instill in people the need for changing and reclaiming our own lives by organisation and self determination.

GASHcollective has never been about a particular style of music. We play party music; Music to get you dancing and feeling the vibe, From Drum n Bass and Dubstep to Techno and Hardstyle to Ska, Reggae, Punk, Dub, Rock and Metal. From Djs to Bands and live acts. We also like to mix in stage shows, dance, performance and art.
Most of the people involved are from a punk-rock background, and we seek to bring positive and anarchist ethics to whatever we do. Bringing values that we treasure, such as anti-racism, solidarity, activism, community, animal and human rights, and the 'get off your arse and do it yourself' attitude that is so lacking from popular culture.

We have always strived to break down musical, social and scene divides, Punks and Scallies dancing with hippies and ravers. Young, Old, Black, White. We're all on the same side, right?

We don't want to see freeparties become nothing but a group of mindless idiots taking drugs and fighting amongst themselves. We dont want to see gang culture taking over the minds of the youth and tearing us apart. We dont want to see people locked away in their homes having culture force fed to them through mainstream media. We dont want to see people's motivation sapped from them by drug abuse use and the feeling that they cant change anything. 
We want to see people uniting and working together. We want people to take away some of the incredible energy and sense of community created at a freeparty and use that energy in the their everyday lives and activities. We want to see people get organised in creating our own affirmative community and culture.

Take a big a step as you like, be that quitting your job and becoming a full time revolutionary, or just reading a few good books, getting yourself clued up and discussing important issues with your friends. But do something! Lets look at the immediate world around us, and work together to make it better.

We will not tolerate racism, sexism, or homophobia. We will not tolerate violence. We cannot stand gang culture or people who think its acceptable to attack or mug people. We have strived for the longest time to keep our crowds fluffy enough to never have to deal with problems like these at our events, but elements of this has begun to creep in. We have systems in place to deal with people who are so brainwashed that they cannot be trusted to behave with humanity and respect when the restrictions of everyday life are lifted. If you see any negative behavior, or are a victim of negative behavior at a freeparty, find a member of the crew. We need these people pointing out, for too long, this tiny minority have hidden in dark corners like cowards, and ruined the party for others. We want to educate them, and failing that, we want them out.

DRUGS
Recreational drugs are inevitably going to be part of freeparty and youth culture, but we dont want them to be the be-all and end-all of the freeparty experience. We dont encourage or condone drug use in anyway. There is more to attending and being involved in these events than seeing how ****ed up you can get. As for using drugs everyday, surely you can think of something better to do? Drugs ruin lives and pacify the masses, If you must use them, use them responsibly and lets not let them takeover our lives. If it stops being fun, then what's the point?
 
THE POLICE
The police exist to maintain the status quo, and although we believe they sometimes need to be challenged in order to create change, We are not out to provoke them with freeparties. We don't want them to be forced to clamp down on our scene. In general, they would rather turn a blind eye. They have to act if they get complaints from local residents about noise, people loitering around or reports from local land owners or security guards. This is why freeparties are always well away from residential areas, and city centers, and why we are careful not to do them too often.

It is easiest for them to shut down a party before the crowds arrive, which is why it's so important for you to get to the party as fast as possible after the location is released, and not discuss the party on the internet or with anyone you don't know before hand.

If the police arrive at a freeparty, don't panic. You are not a criminal, and you are doing nothing wrong by being there. If they ask you anything, you don't know. If they tell you the party is cancelled, say 'okay' then go find another way in. The organisers will always send a representative to speak to them, and often, the police are quite nice. They will usually just hang around and try to stop the crowd getting any bigger. Their main concern is usually health and safety, and this is a big concern of ours too. They will generally wait for the party to run it's course. Sometimes a shut off time is negotiated with them, and when that time comes, and the music stops, we need your help. Please don't give the police a hard time. Being abusive does nothing to help the situation. Be friendly and polite, even if they are not polite to you. Don't leave straight away, hang around any soundsystems and equipment until it is packed away and out of there, look busy by picking up litter, then we'll all leave together, peacefully, free to party another day. Don't bother arguing with them, they will simply arrest you, and although we may sometimes have greater numbers, we are not about creating hostile crowds or riots at freeparties.
Generally, if you cooperate, the police will be civil. Police brutality at freeparties is very rare, but if you witness it, try to film it on your phone, make a note of badge numbers, and the phone numbers of other witnesses. Contact us afterwards and we'll put you on to our solicitors who will help you submit complaints. 
If you choose to carry controlled drugs at a freeparty you should understand that there is a good chance the police will use their 'stop and search' powers. You should get clued up on your rights, and know exactly what to do in the event that you are arrested.

THE PRACTICALITIES
We will not tell you in this text how to find out about a freeparty. You need to keep your ear to the ground, Talk with your friends and make new ones.
We need to keep promotion of these events underground and very covert, for many reasons, And we need your help to do this. Please don't discuss upcoming freeparties on the internet, and if you must, only in private emails and text messages to people you know personally. Tell only your personal friends, and only by word of mouth. Never mention freeparty locations, past or future, online.
Part of the fun of attending freeparties, is finding them! Dont bother asking us where the party will be, we simply will not tell you until the very moment the party is ready to start. Guessing, and spreading rumors about where it might be, does nothing but put the whole thing at risk, ruining months of planning on our part, and ruining an amazing night for everyone else. If you somehow know about a location, or more likely THINK you know, keep it to yourself! NEVER EVER turn up to a venue early, before the organisers are ready for people. But when we do announce the location, we need you there as fast as humanly possible with all your friends!

You should bring small rucksack/party bag with a few essentials. Facilities are often minimal, so prepare to be self sufficient. Dress sensibly and bring warm clothes. Bring a cheap head torch, Plenty of water, some food or snacks, a few binbags for rubbish, a fully charged phone and some money for Taxi's. Look after your personal possessions. Keep an eye on your friends and don't go wondering off on your own. Be safe, Be savvy.
We recommend you get yourself some decent earplugs. Exposure to excessive noise levels can cause long term hearing damage.

Don't bring alcohol or drugs to sell, We're not out to make money from this, and neither should you be. Sharing is a much under appreciated pleasure.

Generally the best way to get to a party is to blag a lift, or get all your friends together in the pub or at your house and get ready to share a taxis or mini-busses. If you drive to the party, fill your car with friends and park sensibly, preferably some distance from the venue. Never block people in, and always leave access for emergency services. Always have a sober designated driver! Drink driving is a stupid thing to do, and your pretty likely to get breathalized leaving a party at 9am! We always try to leave any site we use as tidy as when we found it, so please help in the morning by filling a binbag or two, or even better, dont make a mess in the first place!

FURTHER READING
We want to educate our crowd and get them thinking for themselves. Take a look at our links page, get hold of some good books and zines, get yourself clued up. Keep an eye on the alternative media and get involved with actions, protests and important social and political issues in our local area and beyond. There are people doing some amazing work in the local area, but nowhere near enough. Greater Manchester needs a large network of positive and active people. Cast off your apathy and get involved. We are not a members club that you can join, we will not do it for you, we want you step up, use your brain and DO IT YOURSELF!


The onus is on the organisers to make good any distress caused to the locals and locality of their chosen event. Let's hope their conscience is pricked and they step up to the mark, work with the local authorities if they want to be able to host an impromptu party in someone else's back garden again .


Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others -even to the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story.
Kate Smith  
#20 Posted : 16 April 2013 23:45:39(UTC)
Kate Smith
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Hi I went to the rave, please keep me updated about the tidy up this Saturday I'm trying to get a few friends to come along and if not I'll just come on my own...
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