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R. Stephenson-Smythe  
#1 Posted : 31 May 2010 11:53:17(UTC)
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I think Norm can grab this little topic and put it on the new web site as it is very much linked to Errwood Hall.
 
How many times have we all driven past Fernilee Village Hall? Loads.
Mrs Curious seems very much attached to Long Hill so in her case it will probably be many thousands.
 
The land on which it stands was sold to the village by the Grimshawe family of Errwood Hall for £5 and then the family immediately donated £5 towards the cost of the project.
 
It was originally named, ‘The Fernilee Young Men's Club’ and it was built with the bricks from the gunpowder mill now beneath the waters of Fernilee Reservoir.
 
As this is going to be as boring as all the other stuff I put on I will spare you the agony of reading it all in one go and do it in a series of three as usual.
 
But if you want to join in (very doubtful) feel free; Norm can grab the bits he needs.
 
Who knows maybe Mr Parabuild will provide us with an up to date photo of the building.
Thank you David.
 
 
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High Peak News
 
11 December 1926
 
          FERNILEE VILLAGE HALL
 
          Parishioners Build Own Recreation Room
 
On the left hand side of the road from Whaley Bridge to Buxton, approximately a mile from Whaley, and just past the old toll-bar house, has arisen during the last six months or so, a single storey building of grey brick.    It has crept up and up, layer by layer, but so slowly yet surely until now it has reached completion, and bears on the wall facing the road a stone inscribed "Fernilee Village Hall, 1926."     The passing stranger, passing not too quickly, may wonder justifiably at this building, and wonder still more on reading the inscription, for on both sides of the road, within a mile, are not more than ten or twelve houses, a public house, a chapel, a cemetery, and a school.    But in this small hamlet beat hearts inspired by progress patience and unselfish endeavour.    The Fernilee Village Hall has been built by the unselfish hands accompanying these hearts.    No bricklayer at so much an hour and so many bricks a day has erected this Hall; it has been erected by the men and lads of the village, inspired by the glory of achievement, and not by hope of reward.    These workers have sacrificed many a summer evening, many a Saturday afternoon, to this purpose, and the building, apart from the roof and possibly other small but important portions, is the product of "amateur," but careful workmanship.    The land was bought for a "fiver," and the "fiver" given back; the same generous helper gave the bricks for the good of the cause.    Surely, in these prosaic days, a romantic genesis for the Fernilee Village Hall !
The opening ceremony was performed by two sisters, Mrs Gosselin and Mrs Preston, of Errwood Hall, on Saturday afternoon.    The whole of the small parish and many more besides, turned out for the great event, which was of so comprehensive a nature that it embraced the formal opening, a tea, a concert, and a dance !    Thanks to all this jollification and the generosity of various people in the locality, the Hall was free of debt before the strike of midnight, and the total raised, including subscriptions, proceeds from the tea, concert, dance, etc., now stands in the neighbourhood of £100.
The names of the members of the committee who had the satisfaction of seeing the coronation of their work on Saturday are worthy of recording.    The committee comprises: Messrs T. Pearson (chairman), J.H. Collier (hon. secretary), Albert Warren (hon. treasurer), J. Raven, H. Warren, W. Hill, T. Wardle, F. Bagshaw, P. Renshaw, James Lomas, J. Clayton, H. Lupton, E. Bates and F. Heapey.    The trustees are Messrs T. Pearson, A. Warrren and E. Bates.
A large crowd assembled outside the Hall to see the formal opening.    Mr Pearson, who presided over the ceremony, handed to Mrs Gosselin the key, with which she unlocked the door, and declared the Hall open.    Thereupon Mrs Gosselin and Mrs Preston were escorted to the platform within, and the general public trooped into the building.
 
 
 
 
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I've been too busy to head that way recently.  Google have obliged though.

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Thanks David,
 
I knew I could rely on you.
 
In a couple of weeks the Azaleas and Rhododendrons will be in full bloom at Errwood; will you be able to take some photos for us for Norm’s new web site?
 
They are supposed to be the best you will ever see.
 
There are also some magnificent examples on the Moor Road at Taxal that are said to have spread there from Errwood. Probably worth a snap or two as well.
 
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And now we come to the exciting speeches on the opening day of the Hall.
 
Read it; it’s good stuff.
 
Well I know it isn’t really but just pretend.
 
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HISTORY OF THE PROJECT
 
Mr Pearson, in the course of an interesting and informative address said:
“It is my pleasure today to express on behalf of the committee our sincere thanks to you, Mrs Gosselin, and to you, Mrs Preston, for your generous act in opening our hall.    We are very proud of our Village Hall, and very proud of the part you have played in connection with it.    We are proud of it because it has been erected in such a manner; that is to say, every boy and girl, or man and woman in Fernilee has had something to do with this building in one way or another.    It is now some years since it was first mooted, and at a meeting we held we actually went as far as to make rules of membership and fix the subscription.    It shows that there was considerable enthusiasm for the project, but we have had to wait till now before we can apply these rules.    The children have given their excellent services in the way of concerts, etc., and in the summer time we have run carnivals in Shuker's field and the grounds of Shallcross Manor, both kindly lent.    The boys and girls were taught old English dances, and the ladies have helped by providing the refreshments so that the carnivals were a success.    We have been very much indebted to our ladies' committee for the work they have done, and as mentioned by a friend of the project, we were told that if we were in a difficulty we must see the ladies and they would pull us through.    That has been our experience.    The two carnivals brought us in something near £80.    We then thought of building a hall, but owing to the high prices of materials, or even a wooden hut, we could not proceed with the actual building at that time.
Then we got an important piece of news.    We received word from Errwood Hall that we could have the plot of land, upon which this building now stands, for £5 and we could have the £5 back again as a donation!    Our committee being business men, we immediately closed with the offer!    We also heard that we could have the bricks from the site of the old gunpowder works.    In a very short time men, boys, farm carts, etc., were on the scene, busy collecting bricks and transferring them to our site ready for trimming.    A lot of work was put in trimming during the winter, and then we had £80, the land and the bricks.     We then formed a building committee to get it ready for the winter months.    That we have accomplished, but only after very hard work by the men and boys of this district.    What has impressed me most has been the way they have worked on it.    On Saturday afternoons and summer evenings they have given their time and energy to bring about this result.    We have not finished our work, but we have completed our building, and we shall go on until we have finished the work we have set out to do.    We have installed a first-class heating apparatus, which is working very effectively, and we now have to get the necessary furniture.    Then we want to hold a public meeting to decide the best way of running the Fernilee Hall for the good of the district.    We hope that you, Mrs Gosselin, and you, Mrs Preston, may know that what you have done for us may bring many happy hours for the people of Fernilee for many years.”
 
Last speech tomorrow and then that’s it.
 
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And now for the Ladies’ reply:
 
 
 
                                      "SUPPLIES A GREAT WANT"
 
Mrs Gosselin, who was most cordially greeted, replied:
 
“We have, my sister and I, much pleasure in coming amongst you today, and we thank you for inviting us to open the Fernilee Club, the young men's opportunity of recreation--thus graciously uniting us to yourselves on this festal occasion. The pretty name of Fernilee has long been familiar to us, indeed from our very childhood, and we have always taken an interest in the village and its inhabitants.    I congratulate you warmly on the building you have erected.    It was badly needed and supplies a great want.    I congratulate the young people of Fernilee in having the responsibility of so generous a gift; it will be greatly appreciated.    "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy," and we don't want any dull boys here, be it Jack or any other boy.    As the old saying has it, "A merry heart goes all the day."    I would add, "to the end of life's day."    A sad heart tires in a mile; before the first milestone is reached.
When the day's work is done, young people need recreation, for the matter of that we all do.    A great man who had lived amongst and understood young people once said "If you do not furnish amusement for the young they will find it themselves."    You, indeed, have provided the best and this well equipped building is all that can be desired.    Again I congratulate you on the work you have accomplished.    We both wish that the greatest success may attend it, and we hope that many happy hours may be spent in the Fernilee young men's club.
Now, my young friends, I will, in conclusion, address a few words to you.    I will begin by telling you that you are indeed very lucky in having this fine club provided for you.    You will be proud of it, I am sure, and very grateful to those who are giving it to you.    The very gift is a proof of the confidence they place in you with regard to the recreation and amusement you will be able to enjoy within the precincts of this Hall.    It has been my privilege during the course of a long life, to be associated with , and to know intimately many good and charming men.    They were all workers, men who had spent themselves in the service of God, of their country, and of their fellow men.    Such men remain in mind and heart young and cheerful for ever.    This you will find to be the case with work loyally done, and particularly when it is unselfish and brings grist to the mill.    It makes the heart bright and merry, and the recreation so well deserved is thoroughly enjoyed.    I feel sure that you will all experience this, and that the Fernilee club will then echo to the sound of your laughter and your song.    It is with very great pleasure that my sister and I declare open this Hall, the Fernilee Young Men's Club.”
 
Mr T. Stafford also gave a brief address.
 
Subsequently tea was provided in the Hall, which presented a rare scene of bustle and excitement whilst 500 hungry people were fed.    The provisions had largely been given and were served by a strong force of local ladies.
 
The Hall received its social christening in the early evening, when the first concert was held.    Mr P. Henshaw presided, and songs were given by Miss Bailey, Miss Smith and Mr Hartley; pianoforte solo by Miss J. Macbean, a pianoforte duet by Miss Macbean and Miss Wilburn, recitations by Miss Peggy Linacre and humorous items by Mrs Healey.    A short address was given by Mr J. Raven, who spoke of the old recreation room, which fell into disuse some years ago.
The dance which followed gave some of the young people an opportunity to give vent to their feelings and quite a carnival spirit pervaded the new hall.    Mr Crawley and Mr Clarke acted as M.C.s and music was provided by Miss J. Macbean and Miss M. Wardle (pianists), Mr H. Kidd and G. Macbean (violinists.)
The committee desire to express their gratitude to all who have helped the scheme to finality. A detailed list of subscribers will be published later.
 
Well that’s it. Not really very interesting. But it’s what happened and it’s your history. You may recognise some of the names or maybe not.
But at least it is now on record.
 
Now then I’ve got to think about my next boring subject.
 
Hmm? Everybody on here appears to like pubs, well more than just like them so that’s a strong contender.
I may start off with a miniature Beer Poem to get everyone in the right mood.
 
Yes definitely a Beer Poem from yesteryear.
Don’t forget you heard it here first.
 
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Hi all,

I would say this part of the website is nearing completion. Updated it with some current photographs. Unless I hear anything else I will leave this as is.

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I've been keeping a photgraphic diary of the re-birth of Fernilee Village Hall, a copy of which will be presented to the owner/builder Jim Brocklehurst upon completion.

I can recall going to jumble sales at the village hall when I was a child. It's only in recent yeras that I started to take an interest in it and by sheer fluke of a chance happened to be speaking to the owner one night, who has shed light on much of its history.

Was anyone aware that the building was constructed form the bricks left over from the gunpowder factory buildings, now under Fernilee reservoir?

During construction, Jim has come across many discarded items used during festivities there - simple things like Bovril bottles, beer bottles.. nothing special, but a direct link to the hall's usage.

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Ferni wrote:
Was anyone aware that the building was constructed form the bricks left over from the gunpowder factory buildings, now under Fernilee reservoir?

 

 

Welcome to this forum Ferni,
 
If you look at post 4 on this thread it says:
 

"We also heard that we could have the bricks from the site of the old gunpowder works.    In a very short time men, boys, farm carts, etc., were on the scene, busy collecting bricks and transferring them to our site ready for trimming."

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Thanks, I hadn't seen that particular bit amongst the wallpaper of text. ( it's quite difficult to read in that format).

I lead walks round the Peak District - the origins of which stemmed from my home turf: Fernilee. In the forest along Fernilee reseroir, there is a section along the road in there which indicates huamn habitation/occupation.

It looks like, from the typical finds there, that that particular spot was used as a rubbish dump. When my daughter and I first walked it we discovered only 2 pieces of boots and a few shards of pottery. We found our own bits and added them to the finds, which were left astride the wall. Now, about 3 years later, successive walkers have discovered their own finds and lined them up on the wall too. More boot sections ( the leather stays in perfect condition due to the humidity in the woods there, and clay pipe bits, eartheware jug parts, some ridged creamware, bottle, spouts.. all kinds of things.

If I was guessing, I'd say it was from the clearance of the site and possibly even from after the explosion..
very interesting stuff..

There seems to be little information on the net about this gunpowder factory - but I have seen various photos ( own one) of some of the men who worked there..their funny little hats.

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Hi ferni

Have you seen the website http://www.whaleybridge.net/localhistory/   (any reason for a plug!)

All the info is there and much easier to read than R.S.S's wallpaper

The layout should be a lot easier to read, that is why it has been created.

Norm

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Ferni wrote:
Thanks, I hadn't seen that particular bit amongst the wallpaper of text. ( it's quite difficult to read in that format).

I lead walks round the Peak District - the origins of which stemmed from my home turf: Fernilee. In the forest along Fernilee reseroir, there is a section along the road in there which indicates huamn habitation/occupation.

It looks like, from the typical finds there, that that particular spot was used as a rubbish dump. When my daughter and I first walked it we discovered only 2 pieces of boots and a few shards of pottery. We found our own bits and added them to the finds, which were left astride the wall. Now, about 3 years later, successive walkers have discovered their own finds and lined them up on the wall too. More boot sections ( the leather stays in perfect condition due to the humidity in the woods there, and clay pipe bits, eartheware jug parts, some ridged creamware, bottle, spouts.. all kinds of things.

If I was guessing, I'd say it was from the clearance of the site and possibly even from after the explosion..
very interesting stuff..

There seems to be little information on the net about this gunpowder factory - but I have seen various photos ( own one) of some of the men who worked there..their funny little hats.

 

Hello Ferni,
 
Don’t forget that Whaley Bridge Urban District Council had an enormous land fill site at Fernilee.
It was a little bit further down the road from Melland’s and on the opposite side of the road. Very conveniently situated to fill the Goyt Valley with rubbish and allow the toxic liquids to leech into the River Goyt.
A truly splendid location to have a tip.
 
I haven’t the time this month but I am going to do a brief (well long and boring really, but it’s the sort of stuff Jon likes) history of the construction of Fernilee Reservoir and I shall have to incorporate the Gunpowder Mill.
 
I won’t be able to do this until July so brace yourself.
 
In the meantime here is a photo of the construction works and you can see the remains of the walls of the Gunpowder Mill.
I believe there were three lodges heading up to Errwood Hall and I think the building in this photo is possibly the bottom lodge.
I need to research it more though before committing myself fully.
 
 
Norm please leave the photo because it will appear again when I start a new thread on Fernilee Reservoir. You will find it fascinating I’m sure.
 
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"Long and boring because it's the sort of stuff Jon likes " !

I dont like long and boring stuff at all, but I dont find what you write to be long and boring, unlike my sentences which can sometimes go on for an interminably long time when they could actually be a lot shorter than this one is.

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R. S-S.   I sincerely thankyou for showing that photo. I never knew such photos existed.   I can recognise the hillside in the far distance, so can get my bearings on it.

I also didn't know about the dump over the road from Melland's but I think I know where you mean.. Are there horses on that field now ?  

Ahhh, such pillage of our village

  - Didn't Stockport  Water justify their destruction of  Errwood Hall saying  pollute the water in the reservoir?

 

BTW.. up at the Errwood Dam end of Fernilee Reservoir you can still see road sign for an access onto the site. There's one called ( something) Boulevard:  a very flambouyant name for such a humble location.


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How did Fernilee Village Hall come to be in private ownership? Can anybody help?

This thread is fascinating and certainly not too long. More please! More!

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Hello Barrwalk,
 
The question of how any public building falls into private hands is just that: a question.
 
Usually the trustees agree that there is not enough usage and they can not afford the upkeep so they cash it in. Just where the monies go is yet another question.
 
Fernilee Hall was certainly bought or rented (probably bought) a long time ago by the Company known as Stampiton Press Limited; now The Stampiton Group. They used it for storage.
It was certainly in their possession in 1972 and it has changed hands a number of times since in the last 30 odd years I would imagine.
 
Ferni,
 
You are correct the toxic waste land fill site was in the position where the horses now graze. On a clear night you can see them positively glowing.
 
Just getting back to Fernilee Reservoir I will be able to let you see quite a few photos of the works in progress and the various contracts awarded for the works.
 
The largest builder in the area at the time was our old pals Z & W Wade Ltd from Whaley.
 
And do you know what? Good old Zacker and Wacker only won 1 of the contracts and that was to build the watermen’s cottages on the left hand side as you go down towards the dam wall.
I must say that, as always, Z & W did a very fine job of them.
 
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By the way Ferni,
 
The reason I use large text is because one member of our forum has a little trouble with his vision so it is done to make reading a bit easier for him.
It would be nice if others took note.
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point taken R. S-S. - I enlarge accordingly

 

re. the trusteeship of the village hall.. well, it's handy knowing the horse's mouth - it seems the trusteeship was in the hands of about 5 'elders' of the hamlet. When the last one died, there was simply no-one to bequeath it to or even buy or sell it from, it seems.  The hall died along with the sentiment and terms of the trusteeship.

As it's on land that farmer 'Brock' owns,  a plan was submitted by his son to build his house there on condition the main brick structure and integrity of the buildng was kept. It's now deemed a 'farm worker's cottage'.

 

The houses built for the water board workers were actually made from bricks, windows and other materials taken from Errwood Hall

In a way it still lives on.....


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Hello again Ferni,
 
 
Interesting stuff indeed.
 
When Errwood Hall was demolished there must have been a pile of beautifully cut and dressed stone. Well that much is obvious; so I can tell you that the demolition people did not dig a hole and bury it.
 
It was used in a number of projects around here and you may know of some.
 
The magnificent entrance cut and dressed stone posts are now still situated around here. I have no idea how they arrived at their present location.  At the base there are cut-outs for the carriage wheels to pass through. They still look truly fantastic even today although I have not seen them for a couple of years.
 
Work takes me away on Friday for about 12 or 15 days so I haven’t the time now to photograph them.
 
But maybe whilst I am away you will find the location and put a photograph of them on here thus saving me a job.
 
Happy hunting, Ferni.
 
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when you say 'here', where do you mean ?

 

 


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The size of this thread is playing havoc with my eyes and mouse. I didn't know that R.S-S used a larger font for someone with bad eye sight, but a good idea.

Also you can use Ctrl (bottom left) with + or - (topish right) to change the size of font and piccies. Sorry to be a pain with Windows lessons, R.S-S will moan at me. At least we can have a holiday while he is away with work soon. :)

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Ferni wrote:

when you say 'here', where do you mean ?

 

 

 

 

If you go in search of the Errwood Main Entrance start your search in Chinley.
 
They are close to the house with an eye.
 
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Without taking you there I can’t make it much easier than that.
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