Horwich Ender

This is only about 200 yards out of the Fernilee Parish so not strictly Whaley I hope not to be banished.

Yes it is The Royal Oak but not Taxal

who knows where it is? 

shallcross attached the following image(s):

Here's one for my good friend Glenda:

Previously in this thread, the matter of the evolution of the horse has been discussed, and I am sure there are those who have thought the matter very much off-topic. However, below, I have a historical photograph of a pub, albeit over the parish boundary a little, that links up the matter of equine evolution and local pubs very nicely thus bringing the issue back on-topic.

It has already been explained how the number of legs per horse had been optimised at four by the early part of the 20th century, so having no further work to do on limb development, evolution then began to work on the brain power of the horse. Most of us will have seen various variety acts where a horse is apparently shown to be able to do simple mathematics, but we will have considered this nothing but a "trick". The photograph below shows a horse pegging a game of dominoes at the Shoulder of Mutton in 1937, thereby proving that by that date, horses had become sufficiently intelligent to do not only addition, but also their 3 and 5 times tables!

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Hi,

Shallcross's picture of the White Horse at Horwich End is superb!  I havn't seen one from this angle before.

One of the really interesting things about it is the  building'  on the right of the sweet shop, which no longer exists. It has an official look to it , and I wonder if its an old Toll House. I've always looked at the gable end of the house opposite the White Horse and thought it didn't look quite right. Now I understand why.

There seems to be a sign just above the gentlemans head in the picture. If Shalcross has the original, I wonder if he can make out any lettering on it which gives a clue as to the function of the building. Toll Houses were wound up between 1873 and 1878, and the picture is later than this, so the building at this time would be being used for something else.  I'm having trouble dating the photo too. The pylon at the top right must be either for telephone or electricity, but apparently although the first telephone exchange was installed in a house in Canal street in 1906, there were no private telephones installed until after 1945 - see http://www.whaleyspringbank.co.uk/whaley.htm . The picture does looks to be well before 1945, so it's unlikely to be a telephone pylon. Perhhaps then it is electricity, but this only came to Whaley in 1929 and many houses weren't actually supplied until after 1939. see http://www.whaleybridge.com/pages/history.html The hat and clothes the chap is wearing could be equally in place in the 19th or 20th centuries, so no real help there. I suspect its taken around 1930, but perhaps someone knows better. If it was 1930, then there may still be people around who remember exactly what the building was used for.

I thought it would be useful to attach a then and now picture for comparison.

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CllrJonG attached the following image(s):

Jon

I can't read what is written on the board but I agree the pole is a telegraph pole and I would date this around 1920 I do have another without the pole or the bank on the other side around 1905. what it was I am not sure I have been told that it may have housed a bakery but maybe someone else on the forum can throw some light upon its use, I will post the other view looking up so with RSS post you can see the whole row you can see the windows in the gable end, we must be careful not to loose the thread of Whaley Pubs.

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Good afternoon Well Known Norm

Many thanks for putting the photographs recently provided by Parabuild, R. S-S and Shallcross in the Local History Photo Album.

Only 8 more pubs to go now.

Has anyone else got historical photographs of our local Public Houses?

The pubs not yet featured are the Goyt, Navigation, Railway, Shepherds, Male Hen, Dog & Partridge, Sycamore and Jolly Sailor.

Great thread chaps.I was wondering if anyone had a photo of The Quiet Woman on Old Rd.Keep up the good work. 

Not  often do I agree with**, but in this case I must.

It is so very, very aggravating to have to keep panning to read the postings, especially when they are long.  I'm sure all of you who post  these wonderful photos can post them on a smaller scale to stop this happening.  Please, please!!