Again, there's not a lot I can add to the photo beyond what you wrote, and what can clearly be seen.

Its definitely a Scammell tractor unit, and very probably the low-loader trailer would have been made by them, too. As can be seen, the wheels are shod with solid rubber. Its quite hard to say when it would have been built, but I think they only started making articulated wagons in 1921, and from other photos out there, I suspect that the customer had the choice of solid rubber or pneumatic tyres, probably up till around 1930.

The big steel discs that can be seen lying around the road were used on soft ground under the wheels to spread the load, and prevent sinking. Something they should have been using beforehand, I'd suggest!  Next time I go along Dukes Drive, I will have a look if there is an outlet from a spring opposite where this happened, because it very much looks like they've broken into a culvert.

Dukes Drive has a weight limit on it these days!  Any theoretical time saved in using Dukes Drive instead of Dale Road will certainly have been lost many times over in jacking and packing the load up, then the trailer, then finally the back of the tractor unit.

Hi

I am looking at this thread with the plan to put it on the website.

If we go to the very beginning, posts #1 2 and 3. Is there any or better description for these three photos? I warn you I may be back with more questions.

Norm

No problem, I will add stuff later, you might add more before it is on the site anyway. No rush, put stuff on the forum as and when.

Norm

It's not The Rocket, as that locomotive had only one pair of driving wheels,  as per the photograph of the original. There have been various replicas made over the years, with the cylinders more steeply inclined, and with a chimney design, but they all have the 0-2-2 wheel arrangement. Your photo is of an 0-4-0 loco, and is similar to Sans Pareil, one of the other engines that took part in the Rainhill Trials. The trouble is, Sans Pareil had cylinders mounted vertically, so its unlikely to be that one.

After a bit of research, I reckon it is "Invicta", built by George Stephenson for the Canterbury & Whitstable Railway in 1830.

It stood on a plinth outside the city wall in Canterbury for years, but has subsequently been restored yet again, and is now in Canterbury museum.

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As I am sure many readers will know, threshing machines such as this were notoriously unsafe, with a great number of deaths and serious injuries.

Shallcross,

I have some further information about the picture of the steam roller at Whaley Bridge canal basin:

It is an Aveling Barford class AV 6½ tonner,  number 14152,  which belonged to Derbyshire CC, rather than Whaley Bridge UDC.

It would have been built around 1931, hence it would have been Aveling Barford rather than Aveling and Porter.

Buggyite

Thanks for the Steam info heres another Hughes Brothers diesel

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Picture handed down to me from my grandmother, who lived in Fernilee until about 1917, when she married a steam wagon driver from Woodley (had been based at Plymouth Grove during the Great War). She kept up close contact with the Whaley Bridge folk all her life.

In case you have difficulty reading what is written on the front, it's Jas H. Phillips/Cement Depot/Beswick Manchester.

It looks to be a Sentinel Steam Wagon. Please can you tell more?

Edited by user 24 July 2011 19:22:10(UTC)  | Reason: can't spell wagon!

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That is an official works photograph, taken by the makers Sentinel Waggon Works of Shrewsbury, and is taken at one of their "posing points". We've had other sentinel works photos in this thread, but probably not as this location.

As to the details of the wagon (or waggon as Sentinel had it) - Its a DG model, and was completed in July 1931. For the rivet counters, its maker's number was 8532, and ran on Derbyshire registration RB 4516.  It is not thought to have survived into the preservation era, unfortunately.