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Fedup  
#1 Posted : 30 March 2009 20:01:16(UTC)
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Now I know we touched on this subject in the old forum, but I am now getting really fed up with the situation, so I'm going to vent my annoyance on all who view this forum.

We all want Whaley shops and businesses to flourish, but how on earth can we support them when it is well  nigh impossible to park down in Whaley.

The Car Park is now busier than ever, as people who used to park for hours on Canal Street have got the wind up since the new Parking Attendants have started to patrol the area.  This, combined with the influx of "walkers", who park up and disappear into the hills for hours on end, has virtually closed the Car Park to those who just want to park for an hour or so to do some shopping. 

Canal Street is now slightly easier to park in, but not much use if you want to do some shopping, go to the Library, visit Footsteps and browse in the new (and rather interesting) charity shop.  Surely now is the time to increase parking time in Canal Street to at least 1 hour, rather than the current 30 minutes.

Jodrell Car Park - forget it.  Usually full of cars presumably owned by people using the train station.

Spaces on Market Street - not a hope!

Yes, you can park on the main road on the Canal Street side, but there is usually a long, long line of cars parked up there, and by the time you've got to the end of the line, you are nearly in Jake's Corner Shop, so you just give up the ghost and go straight there.

Don't get me wrong - I have nothing against walkers, train users or people who work in Whaley parking up, but I do find it frustrating that much as I would like to use Whaley Bridge facilities more often, because I can't park anywhere, I tend to give up and just go to Tesco.  I haven't got the time to spend going round and round looking for a parking space and now I have reached a certain age, I cannot even contemplate walking down into Whaley and then walking home, weighed down with shopping.

Has anyone got an answer or a point of view on this, or am I the only person who finds it all very annoying?

 

 

 

 

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#2 Posted : 31 March 2009 07:26:56(UTC)
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Hi Fedup

I can only agree with you now that we have the new Parking Attendants suddenly the parking profile of the Town has changed. I don't know the answer to the problem.

The thing I find frustrating is that when I just want to pop into Town and back the short term parking bays have often been filled by those working in some of the permises and in the past their cars have been left all day.

I do think that we need some more short term parking bays on the main road by the shops or perhaps we reduce the current time allowed so that more peopel have the opportunity to nip into Town to use the post office or buy a loaf of bread etc.

I am open to any suggestion.

Now the good news is that as Chair of the Town Council I can put this on the agenda for the Town Council to discuss at their next meeting. I am certain that Fedup is not the only person who is concerned about this subject so it will now be on the agenda, so please come up with your suggestions as soon as possible because the next Meeting is on Thursday 9th April.

I would just like to make everybody aware that once the suggestions are gathered in and discussed we would then more than likely have to write to the Borough and or County Councils for them to look at the options and investigate them. The inherent danger in doing this is that they will almost certainly include in their reply turning the main car park into a pay and display which does have its obvious drawbacks.

I look forward to any constructive suggestions

Take care now

Jake

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#3 Posted : 31 March 2009 13:04:53(UTC)
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Hi y'LL

When I went into Town at about noon today there was lots of space in the short term parking bays, which I thought was unusual, I checked in with the Town Clerk who told me that the reason was due to the Traffic Enforcement offices being around and issuing parking tickets.

The conclusion is that the system does work it just needs regular enforcement and people like Fedup will be able to use the Local shops

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#4 Posted : 31 March 2009 15:36:57(UTC)
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Jake wrote:

The thing I find frustrating is that when I just want to pop into Town and back the short term parking bays have often been filled by those working in some of the permises and in the past their cars have been left all day.


I couldn't agree more!  I think the parking wardens are very much needed as the temporary spots get blocked up by Estate agents etc.  However it does then beg the question of where exactly do you park!  

As mentioned above there really is not much option, the Jodrell and basin car parks are always full and now parking behind the White Hart is impossible!
(I have been waiting to find a sentence to use that icon on for ages)

I do have one question and that is, is it really true the parking fines are £70  it seems a bit on the steep side to me.
 

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#5 Posted : 31 March 2009 18:13:58(UTC)
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Hi

Stampiton (on the Bings) have not renewed the lease on their car park and staff will be parking elsewhere ???  from tomorrow (1/4/09)-so thats another forty or so parking places now needed in the village

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#6 Posted : 31 March 2009 19:31:05(UTC)
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How about keeping the main road parking bays as short term ones only, increasing the Canal Street ones to an hour, and yes, if necessary, make the main Car Park a pay and display one (keeping the price of parking to a minimum obviously), but couldn't the money earned from that go towards renting some land to use as extra parking? I'm talking off the top of my head really, as I don't know the legalities, but I'm getting so fed up with trying to find a space to park. Take today, for example. I was driving back through Whaley and needed to pick up some pills for my pooch. No spaces on Canal Street, no spaces down the Canal Basin, no spaces in the Car Park. Back onto the main road, no empty parking bays, nothing up Old Road, no spaces outside the Co-op, nothing available on the Jodrell Car Park. Back down Canal Street, and hooray, found a small gap in the row of cars that I managed to squeeze into. All that took me nearly 15 minutes. My visit to the Vet to pick up pills took about five minutes. Then I had to sit and wait in the car for 10 minutes while an enormous wagon tried to negotiate its way down Canal Street past the Post Office van, which was picking up the post. So that is 30 minutes, just to nip into the Vets! It's absolutely ridiculous.

As more and more houses are built in Whaley, there are more and more cars. The more cars there are, the more parking space is needed. Surely there must be somewhere in Whaley that can be used as a parking area? Everyone get their thinking caps on!! Jake, dear Leader, your people need you! Let's get this sorted!
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#7 Posted : 31 March 2009 20:00:29(UTC)
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For some reason 'Pay and Display' appeals to me...I really don't know why.

It does also make me think just how many cars are left in the village all day by people commuting.  As for stampiton is this really true?
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#8 Posted : 31 March 2009 21:00:46(UTC)
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"As for stampiton is this really true?"

Well I use their car park and have been told that the landlord will be ensuring it is empty of stampiton cars tomorrow

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#9 Posted : 31 March 2009 21:20:04(UTC)
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I'm glad I wont be here tomorrow...let me know how it goes!
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#10 Posted : 01 April 2009 05:30:45(UTC)
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It's a really sad state of affairs in the village parking-wise and I never thought I would say this but there is a really big shout fot "pay & display" if no more parking can be provided. The problem is you have to have people to check tickets and they would be a different set of people to the "parking attendants".
Not sure how long it would take to intorduce or which channels it would have to go through but I think it might be the only solution sadly
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#11 Posted : 01 April 2009 07:31:40(UTC)
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Hi Y'LL

The Council have been against pay & display in the past because the Borough, County or Police had nobody to enforce it properly so it would have been a free for all with some paying and some not.

We would need to check that if we went that way that the new enforcement officers would be around often enough to ensure those that overstayed their time would get ticketed, but if that is what people want we can certainly look into it.

The news about Stampiton will more than likely mean that the main carpark is virtually full from 8.00am or earlier till 5.00pm it will not help the local traders and make it more difficult for shoppers and tourists alike, it is certainly not good news. 

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#12 Posted : 01 April 2009 07:34:23(UTC)
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Maybe the pay and display would stop people from the industrial estate parking in there after all its for visitors not regulars. We still need to encourage people like walkers into our area and they need to park so any charge must include an all day option. Better (& more) parking might encourage more walkers etc to park here and then maybe spend some money in the few remaining businesses still left.
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#13 Posted : 01 April 2009 11:12:51(UTC)
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Just been into Town, the main carpark was full and the Stampiton carpark was empty, the short term parking had about four empty spaces but a couple of the cars using the the other short term spaces were local business people who had stayed well over the 30 min period allowed.
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#14 Posted : 01 April 2009 22:23:48(UTC)
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I'd just like to say that I think pay and display parking in Whaley would be a very, very bad idea.

This was implemented a couple of years ago in High Lane and Disley and business at the shops died overnight. Within about a month, at great expense all the machines were removed and signs were put up having to advertise that the parking was free again.

If I wanted to pay at a meter I'd go and live in a city.

There were plenty of available spaces in town this afternoon, I parked, did some shopping and went home.

As long as the attendants stop people from hogging the spaces all day it should work just fine.

 
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#15 Posted : 01 April 2009 22:43:15(UTC)
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Theres a big area that could accomodate up to 20 cars at the end of Canal St, just before you make the sharp turn towards Bingswood. For some reason its fenced off and you cant park there?Im not a driver myself but it seems stupid that theres space for cars and because 1 canal boat owner might get a bit disgruntled, those 20 cars are now parked along the main high street in Whaley clogging up the roads.

Theres also avaliable car parking spaces at the Bowling Green, but yet again despite the huge car park thats obviously there ive only ever seen a handful of cars thats ever parked up, day or night.

 
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#16 Posted : 01 April 2009 23:39:34(UTC)
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I think its still early days really, the traffic enforcement officers have only been about a few weeks.  I suppose it will take time for people to get the message.

I think as long as they do turn up as frequently as they have been and not every Thursday like the old traffic warden parking on the main road and canal street will get better. 

Let’s face it when the water weekend is on people still manage, they just park further up the main road.

 
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The land adjacent to the basin is owned by British Waterways, I think the council should come to some arrangement with them but I do know that they are not the easiest organisation to deal with and will want their pound of flesh (so to speak). I know there are plans for that land but in the meantime perhaps a temporary arrangement could be sought to ease the situation for all. Presumably cash for the development of the the basin is bogged down in funding oblivion and will be some time yet.
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I see the warden is doing her rounds again today.
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#19 Posted : 03 April 2009 06:05:02(UTC)
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If the warden does his/her job and patrols regularly then the problem should solve itself where there is "limited waiting", if the estate agents etc who park all day pick up a couple of £70 tickets then they will stop parking in the limited waiting spots freeing up space for those who want to use the local shops BUT that does not solve the problem really!!
There needs to be more parking provided in some way, shape or form - these people who are parking all day may be doing so as there is no alternative!! I call at the paper shop a couple of times a week around 7.00 and even by then the Jodrell car park is almost full, we are encouraging people to use public transport rather than drive, they use the car park and get the train....result car park full by 8.00!!!
The space at the end of Canal Street would help by providing some more parking but the chances of British Waterways making a decicsion on that in the next 25 years is very slim so I am at a bit of a loss how we are going to solve this. When you can't park in the village you go to Tesco instead and the local shops suffer and before anyone suggests walking into the village - if you work full time they would be shut when you got there and have you tried carrying a weekly shop up Whaley Lane?!!
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#20 Posted : 03 April 2009 15:23:50(UTC)
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I have to agree with you it is a difficult problem to solve, one thing to note is that they only have 23 wardens to cover the whole of Derbyshire so how often they visit Whaley and their impact on parking is yet to be truly realised.

British Waterways are not the easiest people to deal with but the area of land that has been identified is the one that they would hope to expand the development of the Transhipment Warehouse onto if and when it  happens of course. The problem occurs that they would eventually want the land back for their tennants to park on, then we would have a public outcry about losing parking bays.

Yet again I have to agree with you that the closer we park to Tesco the less likely people are to use the local shops, but I am taking on board all the suggestion and comments and the Town Council will hopefully try to find an answer to the problem.

Jake

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