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HILL, ALEC JACKSON
Rank: Gunner
Service No: 1075345
Date of Death: 17/11/1940
Age: 27
Regiment/Service: Royal Artillery Grave Reference Grave B.207.Cemetery FERNILEE METHODIST CHAPELYARD
Additional Information:
Son of Samuel and Margaret Hill, of Whaley Bridge; husband of Kathleen Hill, of Furness Vale.
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Kettleshulme War Memorial Unveiling.
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COTTRELL, LEONARD
Rank:Guardsman
Service No:2618164
Date of Death:23/09/1943
Age:27
Regiment/Service:Grenadier Guards 6th Bn.
Grave Reference I. B. 13. Cemetery SALERNO WAR CEMETERY
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Son of James and Mary Elizabeth Cottrell; husband of Ada Cottrell, of Whaley Bridge, Cheshire.
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Good Morning Zephyr4,
This is turning out to be an interesting discussion; well for me at any rate.
The wooden cross commemorating Leonard Cottrell is interesting in as much as it is a simple wooden cross.
There is a difference in the spelling on the cross and on your contribution do you know which is correct?
The crosses were made up after battles and replaced years later by the white headstones we see today. Some soldier’s graves were blown up in later battles and they have headstones now saying: “somewhere within this cemetery as original graves destroyed in later battles”.
They are usually all together in a circle by the wall. I’ll put a photo on of one of these instances when I have time later.
Some years ago I came across an old photo album and although there was nothing much of interest in it one postcard did stand out:
It was the wooden cross of Private 240,246 William Calandine Jodrell KIA 23.4.17
I knew this was the Grandfather of my great mate Peter Jodrell and I took it straight round to his bungalow on Jodrell Meadow.
I don’t know if you have ever been in Peter’s company but if you have you will know that you didn’t speak much you simply listened to what he had to say. He was witty, charming and Whaley’s best historian but on this occasion he was quite simply speechless.
I’ll give you some more information about both Peter and Willaim Calandine Jodrell as the week progresses.
In the meantime here is that post card.
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The correct spelling is Cottrell here is a picture of Leonard and his CWGC headstone.
Its great to see these pictures on the site as they do get lost overs the years and posting them will make sure that our local soldiers are not forgotten.
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Below is a photo of William Calandine Jodrell who was aged 42 when killed in action in the First World War. Goodness knows what he was doing out there at that age.
He was married to Ann and they lived at Ivy Cottage, Horwich End.
Does anyone know where Ivy Cottage is/was?
William Calandine Jodrell, Peter Jodrell’s grandfather was buried in La Clytte Cemetry in Belgium.
Knowing Peter as I did I am sure he would have liked to have ended up in La Clytte.
More on this later.
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R. Stephenson-Smythe wrote:
Below is a photo of William Calandine Jodrell who was aged 42 when killed in action in the First World War. Goodness knows what he was doing out there at that age.
He was married to Ann and they lived at Ivy Cottage, Horwich End.
Does anyone know where Ivy Cottage is/was?
William Calandine Jodrell, Peter Jodrell’s grandfather was buried in La Clytte Cemetry in Belgium.
Knowing Peter as I did I am sure he would have liked to have ended up in La Clytte.
More on this later.
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Enlisted 1915 Pioneer Engineer attached to the Labour Corps !
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Williams details.
Rank:Pioneer
Service No:125383
Date of Death:29/10/1917
Age:45
Regiment/Service: Royal Engineers
11th Labour Bn. transf. to (295985) 706th Coy. Labour Corps
Grave Reference III. F. 13
Cemetery LA CLYTTE MILITARY CEMETERY
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Good evening R.S-S
As you know, my family and that of William Cellandine Jodrell are connected on two counts – my Gt. Aunt Edith Jones was married to John Jodrell (William’s son) and my Gt. Uncle Percy Jones was married to Lottie Jodrell (William’s daughter).
I have looked at the 1911 census for William’s address and it is listed as Horwich Bank, Whaley Bridge. It is sad to note that his youngest child would only have been 8 years of age when he died. On the 1911he had 8 children. It’s just so sad.
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Whaley Soldier ?
There are a couple of possibilities.
Frederick Wooley (Fred)
Driver T4/239711, 4th Company, 59th (North Midland) Division Train, Royal Army Service Corps attached to 2nd/1st (North Midland) Field Ambulance, Royal Army Medical Corps. Died of wounds 21st April 1918. Born and resident Whaley Bridge, enlisted Derby. Buried in HARINGHE (BANDAGHEM) MILITARY CEMETERY, Poperinge, West-Vlaanderen, Belgium. Plot V. Row B. Grave 2.
Richard Walker
Private 43136, 15th Battalion, Sherwood Foresters (Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire Regiment). Died of wounds 21st April 1918. Born Chapel-En-Le-Frith, enlisted Whaley Bridge. Buried in HAUTMONT COMMUNAL CEMETERY, Nord, France. Plot I. Row A. Grave 21.
The post card was done at W C Wynne Studio Whaley Bridge.
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Hi Zepher Hope your well this may help identify your chap. This being Frederick Wooley (Fred) Driver T4/239711, 4th Company, 59th (North Midland) Division Train, Royal Army Service Corps attached to 2nd/1st (North Midland) Field Ambulance, Royal Army Medical Corps. Died of wounds 21st April 1918. Born and resident Whaley Bridge, enlisted Derby. Buried in HARINGHE (BANDAGHEM) MILITARY CEMETERY, Poperinge, West-Vlaanderen, Belgium. Plot V. Row B. Grave 2.
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Thanks for the id on the photo.
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Good afternoon Zephyr4 and my good friend Gnats,
This is turning out to be an excellent thread.
Later this week I will post some more on my dear friend Peter’s funeral and a strange thing that took place on that day and we will visit La Clytte Cemetery and have a look at William’s grave.
I’ll also put on a photo of a grave close to William Calandine’s of a young soldier who died in appalling circumstances.
I’m sure I’ve got the information about his death.
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When Peter Jodrell’s wife Patricia passed away Peter held the ‘do’ at the Shady Oak at Fernilee.
A couple of years later and just a couple of years ago Peter himself died and his daughter held the ‘do’ at the White Horse in Horwich End.
I asked her why she had switched from the Shady Oak and she said her Dad would have liked it there because his Grandfather, William Calandine, used to be the landlord there.
I think she was slightly wrong as William Calandine was the ‘beerkeeper’ at the Seven Stars also in Horwich End (now Nimbus Antiques workshop).
Still a bit closer than the Shady.
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I have neglected this thread somewhat for personal reasons but I will now attempt to close the WC Jodrell episode:
William was buried at La Clytte Military Cemetery in Belgium.
Here is a photo of his grave.
Peter, his grandson, would not travel with me on the visit; he muttered something about hitting a submarine in the Channel.
So I filled in the visitor’s book on his behalf.
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In the next row of graves to WC Jodrell was a grave showing the final resting place of Private Leonard Mitchell.
Private Mitchell had served in 1/5 Yorks & Lancs part of 49 West Riding Division (I do not think his age is registered).
He was later posted to the 8th Batallion of the Yorks & Lancs.
He was under a suspended sentence of death for desertion.
The dangers once again proved too much for the young man and once again he left his post.
He was dragged down to the village of La Clytte and by the authority of the British Army Act he was shot at dawn. Probably tied to a chair and maybe even shot by his mates.
His family would have been notified that he had been “killed in action”.
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