The Shallcross Hall pit was as described by RSS, with the trucks running down past where the scout hut now stands, you would not have seen that chimney from Horwich end as it was a similar height as the pit head it was octagonal and was castlated on the top, dont forget there is quiet a bend on long hill coming up Buxton Rd from the traffic lights, the old Botnay chimney was a fair height  and as you can see from this photo of the Whaley Bridge Volunteers Band heading up Long hill, taken from just where the packhorse route crosses from Taxal to Shallcross, the chimney is clearly visible in the background, if you look carefully you can see also the Goyt mill chimney and the much taller Printworks Chimney in the distance.

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shallcross attached the following image(s):

Hi Barry,

Just a few points regarding photo 1 of your collection:

The bale chute is slightly to the right of the steps and it is where the bales were slid down to the factory below.

The flat area is where the entrance hole was concreted over as I said in one of my previous posts. It is now covered over with moss and vegetation. (That is the hole is covered with moss and vegetation not my posting).

On the top left corner of your photo you will see the sloping roofs where the fox managed to get trapped.

Thanks to Shallcross for finally solving the conundrum and showing another photo of the ancient Botany chimney.

I've never seen that one before Shallcross; good work.

R. S-S

As I have no idea what you are talking about perhaps you could show me this boundary and explain what you think it might be.

Interesting Capital

The river even in 1283 when this was the great forest of Campana was described and dedicated as a boundary, but I agree it does seem from the map that the course was changed to give more room for the development of Botany keeping all the development to one side of the Goyt, the water was all important to the process so makes sense that they would utilise it to the best of their ability, I know some of it runs between man made walls but does it all around the site?

The lines referred to denote the boundary between Derbyshire and Cheshire and do indeed suggest that the river may have changed its course at some time in the past long before the Botany works was built. I think that RSS is confusing these boundary marks with those finer marks along the main road.

I can offer no clues about this photo and can only assume that it is local.  There is a roughly laid contractors railway in the foreground. The group of men are pictured on a bridge which is clearly arched so I assume that it is intended to carry a road rather than a railway. It is quite a large team of workers so it must be a reasonable sized project.  What then is being constructed and what does it cross?  That looks like moorland in the background but otherwise there is no indication of location.

Can anybody suggest an answer ?

parabuild attached the following image(s):

That is the most recent Botany chimney and nothing to do with the one we have been discussing.

Looking at the 19th and early 20th century maps I am not able to find anythng that would account for this chimney.  There had been a brickyard but that was nearer to Disley and probably closed before the houses in the photo were built. The only other chimneys in that direction might have been at Bank End Colliery but this one is too near to be that. Could it be the famous photoshop chimney ?

http://www.picturenewmills.org.uk/frontend.php?action=zoom&keywords=Ref_No_increment;MATCHES;(^| +)n00216($| +)&continueUrl=ZnJvbnRlbmQucGhwPyZrZXl3b3Jkcz1uZXd0b3duJmFjdGlvbj1zZWFyY2g=

The picture is from New Mills Local History site,

Perhaps you should convey your opinion to them.

Just seach under Newtown if above link fails.

There you go now the ref: No. 

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