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BarryRudd  
#1 Posted : 31 January 2010 10:44:05(UTC)
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Morning all

I am the new secretary of the Water Weekend, which this year will take place on June 11, 12 and 13th.

A new commitee has been formed and we are looking for the following:

Commitee members or volunteers to assist with the planning or to help on the day

Sponsorship from local business-this is an excellent chance to showcase your business to visitors and residents who don't normally shop local.  Some of which should see a healthy increase in turnover that weekend.

And last but not least, ideas.  It's your event, we are just managing it.  So any suggestions would be welcome (even from old ladies who want to sell home made sarsaparilla).  One idea being floated is the revival of the pram race.

We can be contacted and you will be kept up to date here and via the following:

Facebook.  Whaley Bridge Water Weekend

Twitter. W3whaleybridge

or W3@mobelec.co.uk

Please try to keep this thread relevant

Thanks for your support in advance

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#2 Posted : 31 January 2010 12:51:06(UTC)
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Dear Barry,

Best of luck with this year's event - I'd be more than happy to volunteer on the day or with any of the planning.

This is such a good thing for the community as a whole.

Many thanks for keeping this weekend alive and moving forward - I'm sure everyone will agree that you have the entire town's support.

Perhaps our Poet Laureate Cllr JonG should be commissioned to get his quill out and pen a little ditty in celebration (i'm sure the restraining order could be overlooked on this one occasion)- or he could even host a poerty workshop.

But being serious, with all the excellent photos on this site, why don't you host a tent exhibiting the pictorial history of Whaley and invite people to bring their old prints along.

It would be great to see them all printed up in one place.

 

tyke  
#3 Posted : 31 January 2010 13:18:39(UTC)
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Welcome to the Whaley forum Barry, Nice to see you on here at last! Good luck with the W3 weekend and lets hope it is secure now for many years to come and indeed moves on to become an event that Whaley can be proud of. (sorry can't help that weekend as I'll be away in deepest shropshire - working.)

BarryRudd  
#4 Posted : 31 January 2010 13:28:58(UTC)
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Thanks Bev

That is the sort of quailty idea we are looking for.  Now what we need is a person who is interested in local history and has access to a quantity of photo's and postcards - he  could even plug his/her business at the same time. Gazebo/tent sponsored by...........

I await the call

Thank you Tyke

You may not be here on the day but I'm sure we can find a use for you what with your experience as a CAMRA member.  We can't have thirsty Morrismen can we.

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barrwalk  
#5 Posted : 04 February 2010 09:43:35(UTC)
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I would like to add my good wishes to the new committee taking W3 forward in the next couple of years. Already there are some new ideas and the increased publicity (Facebook; Twitter and a dedicated email address) will hopefully be helpful.

BUT as you all know, they [best wishes] don't 'do it' on the day and after almost a full years planning, selecting, booking and confirming involving, in the past, as many as an unbelievable six or seven HUNDRED emails it does require stewards, certainly on the day, but all around that weekend to ensure the 100% safety record is maintained and the dare I say 100% enjoyment record also. So! Get your offers of help in to Barry, the sooner the better.

I was a little concerned that 'tyke', an unknown gentleman to me, wrote "indeed moves on to become an event that Whaley can be proud of".

I had hoped that after several years of very hard work by secretary Jim Middleton and myself, last year very nearly alone, the Event already had that status and the new committee's challenge is to build on so that the words "even more proud of" might ring truer.

However I am sure that was just a slip of the pen and I look forward to W3/2010 when I shall still be involved by continuing to run the boats and hopefully they will be free again (depending on cash flow into the coffers) and we can once again proudly boast that a family can spend several hours of their enjoyable weekend without the need to spend anything.

best wishes from Barrie Walker, chairman 2005-2009

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#6 Posted : 04 February 2010 14:40:20(UTC)
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LOOK AT THIS! from W.B.T.C draft minutes.   Just when we thought we were able to continue...





C09/147


Precept and Budget Estimates 2010-2011
Amendments to the draft (Draft 2) budget estimates were discussed and the following decisions made:
RESOLVED: To reduce the budget for replacing the windows in the Mechanics Institute to £1850.
RESOLVED: To reduce the budget for producing the newsletter to £500.
RESOLVED: To reduce the contribution towards the Firework Display to £1200.
RESOLVED: To reduce the budget for grants and donations to £1600.
RESOLVED: To reduce the budget for the multi-use games area project to £3500.
RESOLVED: To reduce the budget for the chair’s allowance to £300.
 




This is taken from the recently added minutes (draft) of the January 2010 meeting of Whaley Bridge Town Council. For three years now we have seen W3 grant from WBTC fall in real terms and this year we were hopeful of a small increase. Not so (Dec 2009 mimnutes).

Last year the W3 event that everyone, OR, more accurately, everyone minus 'The Whaley Eleven' wants to succeed, needed £2000 and the Well Dressing £1200. Next year everyone including W3 and The Welldressing will share £1600 it says in the draft minutes.

As far as my experience goes after 5 years in the W3 chairmans job, that's IT!         Finished just as it was getting a new start!

Well if that is the case then shame on you Whaley Eleven. Would someone please pass them a copy of this as they don't 'do' discussion with the electorate anywhere and certainly not on The Forum.

Barrie Walker immediate past chairman of W3

BarryRudd  
#7 Posted : 05 February 2010 00:00:14(UTC)
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Hi Barrie

Yes, it is dissapointing.  Only this very morning our treasurer told me that the Town Councils grant was as good as promised.  But we will soldier on.  The new committee is made of stern stuff and will rise to the challenge.  I see no reason why this years event will not take place.  (2011 is another matter, and will need reviewing and will depend on the support of the community). 

But of course we can not continue without the boats! and that is where you come in Barrie, if you are prepared to carry on regardless, then so shall we.

Barry

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Beverley_Macca  
#8 Posted : 05 February 2010 00:05:06(UTC)
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Hang your heads in shame W.B.T.C...

To provide some further context, these are the minutes for December 2009 - why in the space of 4 weeks such a U-turn? Are they really that incompetent that they can't even plan 4 weeks in advance? 

RESOLVED: To include £1000 in the budget for 2010/11 towards the Whaley Bridge Station Restoration Project.

RESOLVED: To include £3625 in the budget for 2010/11 to cover the cost of five replacement UPVC windows for the Mechanics Institute.

RESOLVED: To include an amount of £2000 towards the funding of the Whaley Water Weekend event.

RESOLVED: To include an amount of £1300 to cover the cost of hiring the marquee for the Welldressing event.

RESOLVED: To include an amount of £1800 towards the cost of the annual firework display.

RESOLVED: To include an amount of £50 to provide a new planter at the junction of Cotton Close and Elnor Lane.

RESOLVED: To include an amount of £1000 for the general maintenance of the MUGA and Sports Pavilion.

RESOLVED: To include an amount of £4000 towards the proposed MUGA refurbishment project.

Where exactly does our money go?

While other town councils in the area seem to have the influence to secure the funds to be able to increase their investments in their town events, ours' just rolls over.

It now seems our council is so impotent it can't even properly support the events that brings the community together and yet it finds the money to throw down the drain on reports and consultants on bridges and pie-in-the-sky redevelopment plans, ensuring the windows are replaced on the bunker... I note the new planter at the junction of Elnor Lane and Cotton Close managed to escape the chop.

Our community charges rise each year and yet what is returned to the community declines.

Why are cheques 1789 and 1795 not described in the Accounts to be Paid?... where can we see the expenses remuneration for the Glorious 12?

Watch this thread get locked because it's uncomfortable reading.

I agree with Barrie... why do all these great guys volunteer to do things for this town, when the council seem to have their head in the clouds and stumble from one incompetent decision to the next.

Stop talking about red telephone boxes and start finding the cash to improve the quality of our town life.

I understand not one councillor attended the organising committee for W3 this week...why not? You certainly weren't filling the grit boxes.

What will you say to all the organisers who planned their events on the back of the published decisions made in December.

 

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BarryRudd  
#9 Posted : 05 February 2010 00:20:54(UTC)
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Yes Bev

I can understand your anger and frustration. 

OK so the town council has had to make budget cuts-but what is the saving now being used for.  It would be useful if our representative would help us out by explaining why and how the decision had been made to cut the budget on community projects.  W3 is certainly the biggest annual event in Whaley Bridge and I hope will still get the "lions share" of this years budget along with full council support and an all hands on deck approach

Thanks for showing your concern

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snoopy  
#10 Posted : 05 February 2010 08:02:23(UTC)
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The fact that the Whaley Eleven do not respond just does not do them any favours. There may, only may, be valid reasons for their actions but we do not know. 

I cannot believe that none of them could come on this forum. There has been many calls for them to join in the last week or two. 

BarryRudd  
#11 Posted : 05 February 2010 15:10:03(UTC)
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I have been reliably informed that the figure of £1600 is the amount available for grants to organisations.

This is in addition to the amount which will be allocated for W3 at next thursday's meeting of the town council.

I hope that has lowered the temperature under some collars

Regards to all

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barrwalk  
#12 Posted : 06 February 2010 20:52:55(UTC)
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Hi again,

Barry, I hope you are right about that. The minutes do NOT reflect that idea and do not refer to grants other than some grants already granted. When you just say grants you mean all grants surely?

Is there no one coming on the Forum to set matters right IN PUBLIC?

With regards to the raising of funds at town and parish council level I copy the quote below from some recent email that confirmed what many already know. Maybe you didn't? You will see Barry  that  the town council does NOT "have to make budget cuts"

"Town / Parish precepts

Being well aware that the cap does not apply to towns and parishes, a growing number of higher-level councils (County/District/Borough/City) are starting to off-load some of their non-statutory duties onto towns and parishes in their area – but keeping the money that they would have had to spend on these duties."

from:  Isitfair The Nationwide Campaign Calling For The Reform Of The Council Tax System.  Please visit www.isitfair.co.uk"

N.B. "The cap does not apply to towns and parishes.."

Whaley Bridge Town Council falls into this group. They can raise as much funding as they see fit from the good citizens of Whaley and Furness Vale to spend on what they want. We all hope the money raised is spent to make life better for everyone. Some believe that is NOT the case, others argue it is.

Make up your own mind when you look around our town. Is it clean?   Is it attractive?   Is it vibrant?   Are the businesses thriving? What do our young people do in the evening? etc etc

The above figures, from the WBTC minutes, do NOT refer to this year as the money for this year was approved at this time last year. Much is already committed for W3/2010. The figures quoted are for the year 2010 - 2011 and will/would affect W3/2011 held in June 2011.

If I am wrong then maybe the WBTC Chairman would make one of his rare public statements and put matters to right.

Do I gather the Beverlwey Macca is not a member of the 'Friends of the Telephone Box'?

Incidentally, the boats will happen the second weekend in June each year even if there is nothing else there because WBTC withdraw the essential funding.

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#13 Posted : 08 February 2010 08:04:14(UTC)
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There are many festivals around the country that are not supported by their councils at all, though iin our case a free festival has to receive funding from somewhere. That leaves the stallholder, food concession, (bar), sponsorship, programme advertising, grants etc. Or possibly if the group sold something as a souvenir for example. Its all about making money and in order to do that you have to get people through the door so to speak!

That is about giving people what they want to see....thats easy, boats, stalls, fairgound, punch & Judy, attractions such as the steam engine etc. As has happened in previous successful years. Another way is to keep the event going for a longer period. Its not very good for such a prestigious event as W3 for everything to stop at 4pm. Keep the event going into the evening. That would please the stallholders (I know, I as I know many festival traders) Then their rent could justifiably rise a bit. What about an illuminated boat competition? They have them at IWA rallies.

Music is the obvious attraction, Perhaps Folk goes better with the water/canal scene, but it needs a core event around the stage area in the canal basin rather than in a local pub. perhaps other bands, groups or genre could also play in the pubs both friday and saturday nights.

What about advertising camping? There are a couple of camping sites in the area who I'm sure could accommodate any visitors. Ok maybe now I'm perhaps getting carried away here but that IS what goes on at other town festivals around the country. I think the key for us here is to run events into the evening and see how that goes. That will become more important particularly if the council grant does gets cut.

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#14 Posted : 08 February 2010 09:26:51(UTC)
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Hi there,
I am happy to do something for the event be it a kids theatre workshop, some outdoor yoga and games etc - if this is something you'd be interested in. I have just moved here and am a theatre specialist and yoga teacher (also Tai Chi). I also am a children's writer. Just say the work and I'll come up with some ideas. I start a theatre group in Chapel after half term, maybe they would like to do something. I'd also be happy to help in a youth poetry or writing contest etc...
Jill Forrest.
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#15 Posted : 08 February 2010 14:40:34(UTC)
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Well said Jill. That's what we need - people to come forward with pragmatic ideas. Go to our website -www.whaleywaterweekend.co.uk and pick up the link to our new secretary. There may be a Friday evening slot for a relevant young persons drama presentation by locals.

There have been no shortage of ideas for some years e.g. Classic cars, Friday night Heritage talks, steam engines etc. Even the fairground is something that has not happened in W.B. for some years before W3 took up the idea. By the way, the neighbours will not tolerate a late fairground and maybe even not a late music session on the Wharf. We even had a complaint about the fairground during the daytime!

I would like to see a Beer and Music Festival over the whole of the weekend but that needs the pubs to step up to the line and get together. It would be just great. We would get some good beer, they woluld get some sales and the chippy and food outlets would also benefit. This idea is somewhat watered down at the meeting last September as there was no one to pick it up and get on with it and others with no direct interest all had their say.

W3 is about bringing prosperity into W.B. but, to take on board the good ideas put forward by Tyke we need MANY more hands. How about it Tyke? We already have " stallholder, food concession, sponsorship, programme advertising, grants". They are are VERY necessary addition to the Town Council grant and far exceed it. With respect to a W3 bar there are many considerations such as who will run it? Who will take responsibility for control? Who will profit? and N.B. licence costs rise from £21 to over £400. That takes a lot of 'getting back'.

The idea of selling ?something? sounds OK but -  What is the something that will sell? Who will sell it? Where does the capital outlay come from?

Keep the ideas flowing please. W3 MUST survive! It gives such a lot to our Town.

Barrie Walker recent ex-chairman

Edited by user 08 February 2010 14:41:27(UTC)  | Reason: typos

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#16 Posted : 08 February 2010 15:14:05(UTC)
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Hi Jill

Yes, the new secretary had already noticed you before your post and had you down in my little book, I will be in touch.  A childrens story teller always goes down well at Glastonbury.  It certainly would be nice to have more youth involvment in fact any group who has up to now felt excluded.

Thanks

Tyke

Your ideas have been noted and will be discussed, many thanks for your obervations-a pity you are away that week end.  The new committee will discuss and consider all new ideas put to us by the community.  There has been keen interest shown by the musical fraternity and at least one local landlord is keen to make an effort on range of beers on offer.  A bar is out of the question so it is up to local pubs to make a special effort as they have done previously.

 

 

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#17 Posted : 12 February 2010 19:09:15(UTC)
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I totally agree with the many comments made here. I think it would be an excellent idea to try and prolong the event past 4 o clock. From a music point of view I know most of the bands plus players from the area having contributed, (all be it in a good or bad way, depending on your opinions) to the music fraternity.

I would certainly be willing to lend a hand to get the musos of Whaley and the surrounding area spurred into action to sort out ongoing music from 4 o clock onwards if the majority think this is worthwhile. In my opinion it would attract a great deal more people and revenue into the whole place. It would add another dimension. What do you think folks?

BarryRudd  
#18 Posted : 12 February 2010 20:04:13(UTC)
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Thank you for your comments Pete D

The feedback (no pun intended) that I have been getting this week is that people can not understand why the event is all over by 4PM at the height of summer.  We are looking at an extension but this would have to have support from all parties.  As  I have stated previously this is a community event and we will try to deliver.

I thank you for your offer of assistance and will be in touch if you e mail me your contact details

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#19 Posted : 17 February 2010 22:13:56(UTC)
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Well, we have agreed to exending the event into the early evening of Saturday 12th June.  The boat rides and some stalls will close at 16.00ish and the fairground and stage will continue until the start of the England V USA world cup game.

We are delivering the event that we have been asked for, what we still need is assistance.  This subject was discussed last year and people expressed an interest in getting involved.  We now need them to come forward.  If you can spare a day, a half or the whole weekend then please contact us.

If you are a business and you have not been contacted but wish to sponsor us or have an advert in our Leaflet-don't be left out. 

If you are a local organisation or craftsperson and are interested in having a stall.... contact us at

w3@mobelec.co.uk

Thanks

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#20 Posted : 28 February 2010 10:06:51(UTC)
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I went to the Beer Festival at the Old Hall yesterday afternoon, What an excellent event. Now I Know it would be perhaps a little difficult to do but maybe if some of the local landlords got together and between them organised something similar. Contrary to the belief if some, Beer festivals are not about downing as many as you can but sampling many usually in halves and then sharing with your friends. So what about trying something alongside the W3 event. I know some of the good citizens of Whaley will have been there, I did see a few I knew including Rock Banker so what do you all think? Now Mr Rudd I know it may be difficult to organise but It may be woth a shot!

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