Hi Fedup,

It would be nice if just for once you could ask me to follow up the points you want followed up without the huge dollop of sarcasm and contempt you seem so happy to  throw in. Does it come as any surprise to you that if you talk to people in this way that the automatic response of many is to become as unresponsive as they can possibly be. If this is the way you approach life then perhaps this is why you are  'Fedup'. I have 'known' you on this forum for some time and we have had some good banter and fun and  I would have hoped you could have found a better way to express your frustrations.

Your points are:

1) you want the paths in the park gritted during winter

Answer - I will ask the question of HPBC, but I suspect the answer will be that it will be too expensive. I also suspect that that answer hides the fact that if HPBC grits the path and someone subsequently slips and falls, then HPBC will be liable. Welcome to the  litigation culture. I hate it as much as you. I will ask the question though and state my thoughts. There are particular sloped paths in the park however which would benefit from being gritted and I would be interested to know how HPBC approaches this problem in some of the other more 'important' parks such as in Buxton.

2) You want to know why the grit/salt boxes have not been filled.

Answer - You are not the only one who has been asking this. I have been told that some of the salt boxes have been empty for some time  as a result of a dispute between Derbyshire County Council(DCC) and High Peak Borough Council(HPBC).Unsurprisingly much of this comes to light only when the snow and ice becomes a problem, but someone tonight also told me that this was raised as a problem over a year ago on the old forum. I will raise it at the next town council meeting and try to get some feedback from HPBC or DCC as to why the grit boxes were not filled.

Happy New Year Fedup. Only a couple of hours ago I was contemplating the fact that your previous post about the horrible sculpture in the park was the first post I had agreed with you entirely in 2010. 

Cheers

Jon

Edited by user 03 January 2010 04:49:15(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Hi,

Thanks Mr Jackson, though I'm not so certain that your proposal to  treble the council tax  is going to go down very well with as many as you think !

Thinking about it, I think the situation with the grit bins is more complicated. Some of them are filled by DCC and/or HPBC, and some of them are 'owned' by groups of individual householders, and it is their responsibility to keep the grit bins filled. I'll try and get some more information on this.

Cheers

Jon.

I fell right om my arris yesterday in the park while walking the dog,it hurt.But I would'nt dream of claiming but only because I really could'nt be bothered.

Oh dear Cllr Jon - bit of a tetchy mood today! Still, I notice that your response was posted very early this morning, so perhaps you got out of bed the wrong side - let's hope your temper improves as the day goes on!

Sarcasm? Contempt? Never.......why would I ever be sarcastic or contemptuous when dealing with Councils?

If you read my post again, you might just see that I was asking you to enquire at HPBC about gritting the Park - I never thought that you, or WBTC, were anything to do with gritting, so why do you think I was being sarcastic or contemptuous about you? You see Cllr Jon, the real problem is that I, like a lot of other people in Whaley Bridge, (except Mr Jackson), think that Whaley has not been looked after particularly well during the bad weather early in 2009 and now, and I would have thought that WBTC would have been jumping up and down and banging on HPBC's door trying to get a better service for the Whaley community.

Obviously I am wrong.

I should not have said anything.

I am a bad person, and will make a great effort to be obsequious and subservient to all members of WBTC during 2010.......maybe!

Have a good day Cllr Jon, and mind how you go!

Edited by user 03 January 2010 13:57:48(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Empty one on Hockerley Close. 

(This has been reported to me by a friend who lives down there - I have not actually looked in the grit bin myself.  As you can see, I'm covering my back!)

Edited by user 03 January 2010 19:39:18(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Yes Mr Tyke

I will be a liitle more blunt-it's about time the young, midddle aged  and healthy got off their butts, put their wellies on and got shoveling-I personally think it demonstrates a disappointing lack of community spriit.  Oh we might get sued! - just how Julian Clary is that and what a cop out.  I wonder if the lads whos names are displayed in memorial park slept soundly, without turning to much last night.

I accept that the snow has compacted in the side roads but who compacted it in the first place--People need to get out shoveling as soon as the snow has settled... Just getting my own wellies on

Cheers

Edited by user 05 January 2010 09:39:47(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Hear, hear!!

I know when I moved to Whaley many years ago, the minute snow fell people came out with shovels and cleared pathways and drives, particularly at houses where elderly people lived. Now nobody does anything for themselves. Well, I'm afraid if people wait for the councils to clear their pavements and roads, they will be waiting a long, long time.

Edited by user 05 January 2010 13:12:45(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

It may have been 15 years ago that people helped each other out during times such as these. However economy times are now tough now, and families simply cant afford to be buying bags of salt everyday to put on their driveways and pavements. Especially when they feel they pay their Tax so that the Council should be doing that job for them, thats what they get paid to do and thats the service they should be offering.