My post is still there - see #315.  Not sure which photos of 28 Chapel Road and the Conservative Club Lady M means though?  Maybe there's too much plonk being consumed up here in the cheap seats but I can't remember seeing said photos on here.

Mrs C

Being a mine plan, I did wonder if the vertical axis represented depth, rather than the more usual east-west or north-south that one would expect on a normal map.

If we were to assume as a hypothesis that

(a) The map is a vertical section

(b) That the Hurst pit is the one shown on the 1880's map at the bottom of  Hurst Clough

then the "Bulls Head" must have been at an altitude lower than that of the reservoir, so very much at the bottom of Whaley Lane (but higher than the Wheel Pit and "Whaley House")

The question also arises as to why have the "Bulls Head" and "Whaley House" marked on a vertical section? Perhaps it was because they had a known elevation? Does anyone know if there are any benchmarked buildings on Whaley Lane? 

Thanks for the clarification R-SS, much earlier than I thought.

Edited by user 08 September 2011 14:51:51(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

The house at the bottom of Whaley Lane is quite substantial and it looks as if it could have been a hotel at one time possibly

Edited by user 08 September 2011 17:48:20(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Further to Horwich Ender's post All the evidence indicates that there was definitely a pub in the Whaley Lane area that was once called the Bull's Head. It's probable that the pub was one of the following but at this moment in time I don't think we can be certain which one it was:

5/7 Stoneheads.      The former Coach and Horses on Start Lane.    Mrs Swan's Beerhouse.

Let's hope somebody else has more information to enable us to identify, without doubt, where the Bull's Head was located

Searching the internet I found the attached pdf document relating to "Whaley Bridge Chapel en le Frith and New Mills Conservation areas". I have reduced the file size to enable you all to see what I found within the document  which I think is relevant to this query. You will see on page 2 it refers to "area 3 Whaley Lane and Reservoir Road" and on page 16 it mentions the "Bull's Head dating from 1550". It does not say exactly where the Bull's Head was but clearly shows there is a house still standing that was once the Bull's Head. Hope this helps in some way.

Gail

File Attachment(s):

Whaley Bridge Conservation Areas.pdf (207kb) downloaded 73 time(s).

Hello RockBanker,

Having studied the map of the conservation area and the 'vertical setion map' sumitted by R.S-S, which clearly shows 'Hadfield' to the left of the 'Bull's Head',[looking at it from the Whaley Lane aspect] likewise the conservation area map , I have to agree with you that the house you show on google street view is, indeed, a very possible candidate for the elusive 'Bull's Head'. I think you have hit the nail on the head!

What do others think?

Edited by user 09 September 2011 11:08:20(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

That's ok.... I might have been a bit presumptuous with the map ! Therefore I have taken it off. But I think the house shown in RockBanker's post is a prime candidate.

Edited by user 09 September 2011 15:27:39(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Good evening.

There's some terrific investigative work being undertaken.

From the detail contained in the HPBC Conservation Area Planning Guide I think we can rule out 5/7 Stoneheads and the Coach and Horses on Start Lane as possible locations for the Bulls Head.

I'm not sure if we have found another former pub in Whaley but we are definitely getting closer to identifying the location of the Bulls Head.

Please keep up the excellent work it is greatly appreciated.